• LazyBane@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, capitalism and communism have both had pretty bad implementations historically.

    Imo the issue is down the us humans. For these systems to work correctly we need to act in good faith, but we are inherently corruptable.

    These systems are like beasts that need to be tamed to work properly, but alot of the time the people in charge like to just throw their hands up and go “that’s just how it works!” and not really do anything to fix the issues just because they’re comfortable in the now.

    We saw it in how Stalen corrupted Marx’s ideals and ran the Russian State into the ground, and we see it with how western governments have let themselves be corrupted by the influence of big corporate interests.

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        1 year ago

        That’s why I feel weird when people start almost deifying Stalin or Lenin, it’s just not true to the vision of Marxism.

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        1 year ago

        The entire Bolshevik project was fucked.

        That said, Russia hasn’t exactly gotten better now that they’re not the USSR anymore.

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          1 year ago

          Well, the USSR were basically just Russians, since they carried out Russification programs just like before when the Tsar was still around.

          Though that was mostly under Stalin, but it was still felt in the later periods.