• ben@lemmy.zip
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    5 months ago

    Because we live in reality and there’s no such thing as a perfect state

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      5 months ago

      Thats a weird angle.

      My thing is, advocating for JUST tiktok to be banned when the American companies are doing the same thing makes zero sense.

      So again, why pick? Choose freedom.

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            5 months ago

            So no real tangible advice then, right? Just telling people on the Internet they’re not doing enough? Got it, thanks

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                5 months ago

                No, but you came in and started doing it anyways, lol. Just wanted to see if there was any substance behind your “do better” message.

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                  5 months ago

                  I actually didnt tho. Please show me on the doll where I told anyone what to do.

                  I do what I do, feel free to do you.

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                    5 months ago

                    Choose freedom.

                    Be a leader.

                    Dis u?

                    People generally don’t not “choose” freedom. We didn’t wake up one morning and say, y’know, I feel like giving away all of my personal data to the government. Telling people whom you’ve got no idea of their struggles to “be a leader” from your keyboard isn’t constructive. It’s noise at best, and condescending at worst. But you do you.

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          5 months ago

          It means anyone picking a “side” in the US vs Tiktok debate should reconsider their position (imo anyways)

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            5 months ago

            I didn’t pick aside. I don’t use TikTok and I don’t care who owns it. But I live in the US, theoretically I would rather one entity spying on me than two lol

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              5 months ago

              Why not zero? Aim higher fam, people let themselves be surveilled too easily these days without any resistance

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                If I don’t want to be spied on by the US I would have to leave the country, which is not exactly an option. Then I would have to determine a country that does not spy on its citizens or is otherwise not spied on heavily by another country. I’d be very curious with that list looks like. I imagine it’s very small, and very undesirable.

                I use a lot of digital tools to protect my privacy and have fought for digital privacy rights directly. Don’t lecture me please.

                Where is this magical land you live?

                Honestly I’m just getting tired of discussions where people lecture me about “just taking it laying down“ as if somehow I have the ability to end the US surveillance state or otherwise opt out of it. I have limited options, as do all of us. I am acknowledging reality, not saying I endorse it or don’t even push back where I can. These kinds of comments are flippant and annoying.

                TL;DR: zero isn’t a real option today so don’t act like it is.