• baggachipz@sh.itjust.works
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    I fucking hate motion-sensing faucets so much. We can edit the human genome, but are unable to make a motion sensor that actually fucking works?! Fuck outta here.

    I actually prefer the old-school “push-down and have limited time” type at this point.

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      I just want a foot pedal to press. Public toilets should also have those just for hygienic reasons.

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        5 months ago

        I really miss these hand washing stations we had in elementary school.

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        I’m not sure if this is ADA compliant. It might be the reason why we don’t see these very often. I had one of these at work though.

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          I can only see wheelchairs being an issue, but you need special toilets and sinks for that anyway. Any foot pedal should be able to be activated with a crutch or prosthetic.

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          ADA compliancy is such a BS hurdle sometimes.

          “Hey we made this improvement that will help 99.99% of all people!”

          “What about the remaining 0.01%?”

          “Well, no, unfortunately it won’t work for those edge cases”

          “Ewww… Well it’s not allowed then. If a blind man in a wheelchair with a service dog can’t use it, then no one can!”

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          I think typically they only turn on when they actively detect something near the sensor. Once they no longer detect the object, they shut off.

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            I don’t think so.

            If they only relied on the sensor it would constantly turn on and off which is something I have never seen on that kind of faucets. I think there is always a delay before shutting down but sometimes that delay is set so low that it feels like you need to constantly activate the sensor.

            Edit: clarification: What I meant is that if you just move once your hand in front of the sensor it should remain ON longer than just the time your hand was detected. I have never seen a sensor that literally activates only to the millisecond when something is moving. Even just to prevent false activation for half a second you kind of need a delay in there. If not you could have a 100ms activation that doesn’t even have the time to let the water out by opening the faucet and you create unnecessary wear on the valve system. My point being it never really makes sense in engineering to have a button or sensor direct output used. Usually you have mechanisms to prevent “bouncing” and so on. But I’m no plumber so it is just assumptions.

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            That’s how this one works. If I stop rubbing my hands the water stops. It detects motion, not proximity.

    • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
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      You have correctly identified that it’s not a lack of technological advancement that is holding our society back.

      Now go solve social sciences, economics, psychology, and neuroscience. Come back and we’ll talk about how to design a world where nobody happens to install a motion sensor with a wrong range.

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    This and most washroom faucets have too little space for washing hands. The space from the spout to the back and bottom of the sink doesn’t allow for rinsing whilst scrubbing without touching the sink. Infuriating.

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      They’re not actually intended for washing your hands but rather for ticking the ‘customer hand-washing facility available’ box and providing jobs for interior designers nephews.

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        Okay, you tell me how to wash my hands…

        I wet my hands, get soap, scrub, and continue to scrub as I rinse. Not going to stand there for 2 minutes for all the soap to rinse off on its own. Your way is actually worse because you end up having to maneuver your hands a lot more to get all the soap off to the wrists. And good luck trying to wash your forearms.

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    at the office we have the ones you have to push down–and hold for the water to run. i’ve encountered them elsewhere and you get 10-20 seconds before the water shuts off… ours doesn’t. by the time you get your hand down to the water, it’s shut off.

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    LPT: For faucets like this (or if you just want running water to wash something) get a paper towel. Wet it under the water and then put it over the sensor.

    Toilet paper also works but it’s messier.

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    I have seen something like this a lot. Many more that work fine but but they certainly don’t seem to be at the five 9’s or two nines or maybe even one nine. maybe one nine.

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      five 9’s or two nines or maybe even one nine. maybe one nine.

      This is the first time I hear this expression, what does it mean?

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        “Five Nines” typically refers to something that works 99.999% of the time, which still allows for 1 screw-up out of 100,000.

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        yes as dhork mentions its related to a concept of 6sigma which is an airline/telephony thing about things that must not fail. My little quip is suggesting they work like 90% of the time which is not great.

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          Finally learned what DFSS actually means rather than just a breakdown pf the fucking acronym lol