• bamboo@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Glad to see Comac planes being used at production scale. Hopefully they are safe and push Boeing to do better, but based on recent US actions I bet they will ban Comac to prevent competition.

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    6 months ago

    Boeing has generally been one of the lynchpins of China-US trade relationship, and with both the current geopolitical climate and the ongoing quality issues of Boeing aircrafts, of course the Chinese airlines would want to hedge their bets and take a risk on domestically produced jets, even if it is new and relatively unproven at this point. It doesn’t mean that they will stop buying from Airbus or Boeing completely, though.

    The C919 uses many American/European produced components/subsystem, most notably the CFM LEAP engines, which is also used by both Airbus and Boeing.

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    There is more that goes into an airplane than the people maintaining or assembling it, which can and does go afoul. There is the entire manufacturing process, how materials are sourced, processed, refined, machined/formed, heat treated, stress relieved, coated/plated, assembled, and the list goes on. That is a major factor why aircraft are so safe and if you think China’s material and process controls are as rigorous as someone like Boeing or Airbus, it isn’t. It has taken decades of actual aircraft manufacturing to get the formula right for those respective companies and they continue to evolve as time goes on and new information is learned.

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      6 months ago

      and if you think China’s material and process controls are as rigorous as someone like Boeing or Airbus, it isn’t

      Source? You can probably point to specific processes that are done better in the US/Europe. But which ones are preventing China from building a reliable plane?

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        We tested Comac parts for FAA certification. When you’ve tested parts for decades you can pretty much nail down the cause of the failure be it design, process, materials, a combination and so forth.

        Also the c919 is only certified in China. It can’t fly in the US or Europe.

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        6 months ago

        Nothing but time. So long as their testing is rigorous, they will catch up to Boeing… But will they be rigorous? History has repeatedly suggested, no.

        But we in the west shouldn’t count on that continually being the case.

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    That which made China will also be its downfall. They can’t manufacture and sell cheap junk for decades, then turn around and expect people to trust their lives in their planes.

    Boeing isn’t better, by any means. Nationalize them and imprison the CEOs