Schleswig-Holstein, Germany’s most northern state, is starting its switch from Microsoft Office to LibreOffice, and is planning to move from Windows to Linux on the 30,000 PCs it uses for local government functions.

Concerns over data security are also front and center in the Minister-President’s statement, especially data that may make its way to other countries. Back in 2021, when the transition plans were first being drawn up, the hardware requirements for Windows 11 were also mentioned as a reason to move away from Microsoft.

Saunders noted that “the reasons for switching to Linux and LibreOffice are different today. Back when LiMux started, it was mostly seen as a way to save money. Now the focus is far more on data protection, privacy and security. Consider that the European Data Protection Supervisor (EDPS) recently found that the European Commission’s use of Microsoft 365 breaches data protection law for EU institutions and bodies.”

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    Ugh I hate office365 but holy shit I would not want to support libreoffice.

    The FOSS scene really needs an office suite that doesn’t feel like its from last century. People use Microsoft shit not only because its the only choice but because its actually usable for office tasks.

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        Exactly? The interface is god awful, if you’re running a dark theme then your icons will be unseeable (black on black) unless you enable experimental features. The interface is straight out of the early 2000s.

        If I, a computer person, has so many issues with software normie office workers are going to use then they’ll have a hell of a time using it. I’d definitely not wanna be the helpdesk people having to deal with endless calls about why they can’t print their tps reports because they can’t find the print icon.

        Libreoffice had some steam when it first forked from OpenOffice but it ran out pretty quickly. Theres not been any meaningful features added and they can’t even keep up with the frontend interface.

        Also. It doesn’t seem like the German gov announced any kind of large funding contributions to libreoffice so I have no idea how they plan on encouraging anyone to fix the issues they’ll no doubt have.

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          Most orgs would do well with basic UIs. As someone who has done help desk, users are fucking stupid more times than not. Microsoft is constantly changing their UI just because they feel like it and we’d get tickets because “Microsoft updated and I can’t find X anymore!”.

          Yeah, it’ll take some getting used to for some users at first, but the lack of constant, arbitrary UI updates will help over time.

          It looks outdated but that’s what most businesses deal with specifically because of dumb users and because businesses don’t want to pay to keep training users on new UIs or paying for support to educate users and a lot of it is gimmicky, not really providing anything new but just a different way of looking at the same screen.

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          Exactly? The interface is god awful, if you’re running a dark theme then your icons will be unseeable (black on black) unless you enable experimental features. The interface is straight out of the early 2000s.

          Erm. I don’t have any experimental features enabled, and my icons aren’t black on black as far as I can see.

          I’ve been using only Libre Office for about the last six years for the daily running of my business and I have no problems. Furthermore, I despise the ribbon interface, give me an interface from the 2000’s any day.

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          The interface is straight out of the early 2000s.

          The last good version of MS Office was Office 2000. The ribbon interface and the rest of its spawn are godawful.

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            Yeah I’d use only office before libreoffice for an org for sure.

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          As a helpdesk guy, this type of issue happens with microsoft office just as often. People tend to memorise where the thing they use everyday is, and any update that changes where it is or how it functions “breaks” their flow of doing their task. We as technical people tend to simply have the skills to use a search engine to find out where it moved/how to solve our problem, but they dont.

          While I havent been using libreoffice that long or as intensively as a government enployee would so I cant comment on if its the best OSS office suit for this situation, Im just happy they are starting the switch away from microsoft and CSS and finally waking up.

        • @krolden @vort3 Libreoffice has like 6 different interfaces that you can pick from at startup, including one that is licmicking Office’s UI.

          It also auto detects dark mode and auto sets icons to be the right theme, so, that criticism seems dated to me :)

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          Sad but true.

          Libreoffice = has all features, awful design

          OnlyOffice = better design, less features

          WPS = best design, fucked up features.

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      I would argue that MS Office feels like it’s from the last century as well. Even the newest versions of it feel like it was made by people who have never had to use it.