For some reason I have it in the back of my mind that they were at one point accused of being a honeypot for US intelligence because of their association with MIT. Probably complete BS, but maybe not. Are they as open source as they claim to be? Looks like they’re on github. F-Droid seems to think they have some Google libraries or whatever that they use.
ProtonMail users, how do you like/dislike it?
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@Nia_The_Cat@beehaw.org, thanks for your detailed reply! 🙂👍
They don’t have to ignore it, just go to court to fight it. Apple has done this. To be clear I have no idea if they did or did not do that or what their chances of winning would be.
They only logged the IP. That’s metadata. IIRC Apple refused backdooring its phone encryption. That’s a lot more invasive.
They didn’t just log the IP, they provided it to French authorities.
like… yeah, no shit
it’s worth noting that protonmail has an onion and their clearnet server also accepts tor connections. So users can control the leakage of their IP… but only if they’re willing to solve countless CAPTCHAs.
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I don’t think they contested it for this case, we do get numbers on how many they contest yearly though https://proton.me/legal/transparency
Interesting how much the legal orders jumped after 2018/2020. Edit: Also looks like when they do contest they win the majority of them
Well I’m glad to see they contest at least some of them. That must cost them a fortune in legal fees to protest 7k orders/year.
Doesn’t Proton specifically provide instructions for how to use proton mail via proton vpn (and/or tor, discussed in the article) to provide extra privacy against IP-demanding court orders?
That would be rather short-sighted or disingenuous as they would then simply be forced to log their proxy too.
Not according to the article at the top of this thread:
According to Exodus, version 3.0.17 only had Sentry crash-reporting.
Did they add in Firebase in later versions?
Hmm, the repo I was looking at must’ve just been poorly worded then, I was looking at this one. It said it only used sentry but the warning label said that it also had Firebase, maybe they had it in old versions but got rid of it later but the repo didn’t bother to remove the label possibly, I’ll edit that part