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Custoslibera@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

I do not condone violence against political opponents

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I do not condone violence against political opponents

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Custoslibera@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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    I used to be the type that would argue for nuance in such accusations. That blanket statements are foolish, and that not all of a thing can be blamed for the actions of just some of a thing-

    But yeah. If you’re a conservative/republican….

    You’re a fascist.

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      I think the biggest red flag for me lately has been libertarian because what I’ve learned that actually means is you’re the insane flavor Republican but don’t want the bad PR

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        this essay by Huey P Newton is pretty good about anarchism being good theory, but typically counterproductive in caste societies like US

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        Modern right-libertarians are just the right-wing of liberalism taken to their most extreme, specifically in their propertarianism, especially in a settler colonial society like U.S, Australia, Northern Ireland, and Israel…

        I call them right libertarians because the term “libertarian” has been co-opted to hell by them

        “One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, ‘our side,’ had captured a crucial word from the enemy . . . ‘Libertarians’ . . . had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over…”

        • Murray Rothbard
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          Absolutely I understand that the broader political definition of libertarian is not what it’s been co-opted to be in North America.

          Here it is inextricably linked to the most insane rhetoric, used only the brainwash people into voting against their interest.

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          I sometimes like to read Rothbard’s The Betrayal of the American Right just to laugh at him.

          What did you think would happen, you slavery-defending doofus? All the real libertarians warned you.

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        It depends. I’ve known some people who use it to say they’re the crazy type or Republican too, but I’ve also heard it used by more moderate Republicans and conservatives, who don’t want to associate with Trump and the other authoritarians in the right-wing of the party. I’ve also seen it used by non-aligned voters, who don’t have another label for themselve, so just default to “libertarian”, because they’ve heard it before.

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        glad you finally caught up. it’s depressing to see how many good people are just catching up. it makes sensible solutions seem impossible.

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      There was a time I wouldn’t automatically judge a Republican voter.

      Those times are long gone.

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        Why judge when you can just believe what they tell you with their own mouths?

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          I showed my friend a PragerU the other day, this woman going on about how she had a 6 figure job at a “major entertainment company” but always felt empty and alone until she found a man to push her to quit and pump out babies, and ended with a title card with DOMESTIC EXTREMISM in big bold letters and a tagline along the lines of “will save us all” or whatever.

          She thought it was parody, oh you sweet summer child.

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            I always felt empty and alone until I had a nice strong man to pump me full of babies! Ugh.

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        I got downvoted into oblivion yesterday for suggesting that an easy solution to the world’s problems easily begins in America with a Rwandan style genocide of conservatives.

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          My morals say that solution is bad.

          Their morals dictate that I not take it off the table. If somebody only speaks French, you won’t get anywhere speaking Japanese.

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            exactly.

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          This is an incredibly fucked up thing to want and if you can’t see that then you’re already lost.

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            They are utterly lost.

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            not really. want to elaborate on your thinking here? i promise i can have a nuanced talk about it.

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              You’re literally calling for a genocide. There is no position or nuanced take that you can have to arrive at anything rational. Seek help.

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                no. i’m not going to seek help. this is a simple trolley dilemma, and if you don’t understand that soon, you’re dooming billions.

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                  A trolley dilemma does not represent real life. It’s meant as a simple thought exercise. Genuinely, you’re a fucking idiot and a real part of the problem.

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                    why does a trolley dilemma not represent real life? why is the problem not a simple thought exercise? genuinely, GFY.

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                It’s pretty telling how yall are cool with it from the party whose entire thing is eradication of everyone but cishet white men from society, but as soon as somebody wants to stop them from doing so it’s “mental illness.”

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          As well you should have been. If you can’t see how this is problematic then I truly think you should sell professional help. You are not the morally justified party in this scenario.

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            lol. who is morally justified? please explain.

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      and the easiest way to fix the world is to remove all of them from it. Can I get an amen?

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      Out of curiosity, what’s your definition of fascist? What are the fascist characteristics that you see in the Republican voters?

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        Go down this list any tell me how many traits don’t apply to Republicans. https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html

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      firstly, american-centric. secondly, theyre not all MAGA

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        The post is American centric and if you wanted some more diverse content just make it instead of complaining and making the place worse overall

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          fuck off. if we can fix america first, the rest of the world is easy.

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            American Exceptionalism at work, but not entirely wrong. The American political and cultural impact is simply massive. A true left shift in American domestic politics has profound impacts for the globe.

            As does a further rightward shift. Particularly when it means the two nations with MAD capability are both fascist.

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        I would rather spend time fighting fascists than being pedantic

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          exactly.

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        if you tolerate fascists and hang out with fascists, then you’re all fascists

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          What is your definition of “fascist”?

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        The only good fascist is a dead fascist. All four of my grandparents that fought in WWII, and one of them fought in WWII, taught me that, while they taught me how to shoot.

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          It’s weird how we fought a war against fascism less than 100 years ago and now like 75% of Americans (even those who aren’t faschie) think the real fascists are those who oppose platforming fascists.

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        You’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole.

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