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Glad to see that Amnesty International is apparently not a third party source that’s confirmed this occurrence.
Do you live on the same planet that I do?
Just to provide some more info on the human rights abuses being carried out against Uyghurs (you might want to learn the english spelling of the group you’re denying the abhorrent treatment of without using the Cyrillic derived one in the future, it will add to your propaganda’s credibility):
Besides that, you’ve posted literally zero evidence of any of your claims
I will literally follow you around this site and continue to prove you wrong because I’m sick and tired of your bs tbh. Seen you purporting false information way too many times.
Posting a thousand articles that just cite and restate Adrien Zenz and the Australian Strategic Policy Institute is not different from just posting them directly
The UN and HRW say you’re wrong.
The UN report based on actually visited the area did not find evidence of genocide, so you’re just lying now. As for HRW; they just regurgitated Zenz and ASPI. In fact, that’s the recurring pattern; all of the people actually crowing about genocide never try to produce primary evidence themselves.
Besides that, you’ve posted literally zero evidence of any of your claims
You’re a a child molester; provide evidence that you’re not!
I never said genocide and neither did the other commenter. You did, specifically because the human rights abuses the UN did find don’t constitute genocide.
Also, the guardian article very explicitly gives some points about the UN report in case you didn’t want to read it:
Five key points from the UN report on Xinjiang human rights abuses
Crimes against humanity
The top line of the UN high commissioner for human rights (OHCHR) report is that the commissioner’s office found credible evidence of torture and other human rights abuses that were likely to be “crimes against humanity”.
The report included allegations of people being strapped by their hands and feet to a “tiger chair” and beaten, women raped, and others held in extended solitary confinement. Others appeared to have been waterboarded, as the report described individuals “being subjected to interrogation with water being poured in their faces”.
Anti-extremism
The report was highly critical of the Chinese government’s anti-extremism doctrine, which underpins the crackdown. It said the laws and regulations were vague and ill-defined, open to individual interpretation, and blurred the line between indicators of concern and suspected criminality. Both categories also contained a copious number of benign acts classed as extremism despite having no connection to it, such as having a beard or a social media account.
Such indicators may simply be “the manifestation of personal choice in the practice of Islamic religious beliefs and/or legitimate expression of opinion” it said.
Accusations of extremism could result in people being referred to detention facilities at multiple stages along the investigative process by police, prosecutors or the courts.
Arbitrary detention
The report found there was an acute risk of arbitrary detention and that it was “reasonable to conclude that a pattern of large-scale arbitrary detention occurred in [vocational education and training centre] facilities, at least during 2017 to 2019”. It pushed back on Beijing’s claims that the facilities were schools or training centres where participants were free to join and leave. The report said such “placements” amounted to a form of deprivation of liberty.
“A deprivation of liberty occurs when a person is being held without his or her consent,” it said.
“Consistent accounts obtained by the OHCHR, however, indicate a lack of free and informed consent to being placed in the centres; that it is impossible for an individual detained in such a heavily guarded centre to leave of their own free will.”
Two-thirds of the former detainees interviewed by the OHCHR reported being subject to treatment that would amount to torture or other forms of ill-treatment.
Forced labour
The report also pushed back on China’s rejection of forced labour accusations, finding them to appear discriminatory in nature or effect, and to involve elements of coercion. It said the labour schemes were closely linked to the anti-extremism framework and arbitrary detention, which “raises concerns in terms of the extent to which such programmes can be fully voluntary”.
Forced medication and sexual abuse
Detainees were also forced to take medication or injections without explanation of what it was. It noted persistent claims of sexual abuse and violence in the facilities, and government denials which often used “personal or gendered attacks” against the women reporting allegations.
The report also found the Chinese government made a “clear link between frequency in child births and religious ‘extremism’”. It said there were “credible indications of violations of reproductive rights through the coercive enforcement of family planning policies”, including allegations of forced abortions, contraception and sterilisation. It noted Xinjiang’s rate of sterilisation was 243 procedures for every 100,000 inhabitants, compared with a national average of 32.
You need to look up what a primary source is. Also, ctrl-F Zens: 41 matches,
Also, the guardian article very explicitly gives some points about the UN report in case you didn’t want to read it:
Or I could just read the report itself. It’s very telling that Uyghur genocide conspiracy theorists go with some western media outlet editorializing evidence, rather then just posting evidence itself.
Glad to see that Amnesty International is apparently not a third party source that’s confirmed this occurrence.
Do you live on the same planet that I do?
Just to provide some more info on the human rights abuses being carried out against Uyghurs (you might want to learn the english spelling of the group you’re denying the abhorrent treatment of without using the Cyrillic derived one in the future, it will add to your propaganda’s credibility):
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/uyghurs-credible-case-china-carrying-out-genocide
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/31/china-unrelenting-crimes-against-humanity-targeting-uyghurs
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/01/five-key-points-from-the-un-report-on-xinjiang-china-human-rights-abuses-uyghur-muslims
Correct.
Apparently not, on my planet, for example, mindlessly copy pasting text from wikipedia is not considered a compelling point.
Check the links I’ve provided.
The UN and HRW say you’re wrong.
Besides that, you’ve posted literally zero evidence of any of your claims
I will literally follow you around this site and continue to prove you wrong because I’m sick and tired of your bs tbh. Seen you purporting false information way too many times.
Human Rights Watch is a straight up NED/CIA outlet.
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/hwi7ub/i_am_sophie_richardson_china_director_at_human/
You are telling me that I trust these clowns?
Posting a thousand articles that just cite and restate Adrien Zenz and the Australian Strategic Policy Institute is not different from just posting them directly
The UN report based on actually visited the area did not find evidence of genocide, so you’re just lying now. As for HRW; they just regurgitated Zenz and ASPI. In fact, that’s the recurring pattern; all of the people actually crowing about genocide never try to produce primary evidence themselves.
You’re a a child molester; provide evidence that you’re not!
I never said genocide and neither did the other commenter. You did, specifically because the human rights abuses the UN did find don’t constitute genocide.
I also found a primary source report after like 3 mins of looking https://newlinesinstitute.org/rules-based-international-order/genocide/the-uyghur-genocide-an-examination-of-chinas-breaches-of-the-1948-genocide-convention/
Also, the guardian article very explicitly gives some points about the UN report in case you didn’t want to read it:
Five key points from the UN report on Xinjiang human rights abuses
Crimes against humanity
The top line of the UN high commissioner for human rights (OHCHR) report is that the commissioner’s office found credible evidence of torture and other human rights abuses that were likely to be “crimes against humanity”.
The report included allegations of people being strapped by their hands and feet to a “tiger chair” and beaten, women raped, and others held in extended solitary confinement. Others appeared to have been waterboarded, as the report described individuals “being subjected to interrogation with water being poured in their faces”.
Anti-extremism
The report was highly critical of the Chinese government’s anti-extremism doctrine, which underpins the crackdown. It said the laws and regulations were vague and ill-defined, open to individual interpretation, and blurred the line between indicators of concern and suspected criminality. Both categories also contained a copious number of benign acts classed as extremism despite having no connection to it, such as having a beard or a social media account.
Such indicators may simply be “the manifestation of personal choice in the practice of Islamic religious beliefs and/or legitimate expression of opinion” it said.
Accusations of extremism could result in people being referred to detention facilities at multiple stages along the investigative process by police, prosecutors or the courts. Arbitrary detention
The report found there was an acute risk of arbitrary detention and that it was “reasonable to conclude that a pattern of large-scale arbitrary detention occurred in [vocational education and training centre] facilities, at least during 2017 to 2019”. It pushed back on Beijing’s claims that the facilities were schools or training centres where participants were free to join and leave. The report said such “placements” amounted to a form of deprivation of liberty.
“A deprivation of liberty occurs when a person is being held without his or her consent,” it said.
“Consistent accounts obtained by the OHCHR, however, indicate a lack of free and informed consent to being placed in the centres; that it is impossible for an individual detained in such a heavily guarded centre to leave of their own free will.”
Two-thirds of the former detainees interviewed by the OHCHR reported being subject to treatment that would amount to torture or other forms of ill-treatment. Forced labour
The report also pushed back on China’s rejection of forced labour accusations, finding them to appear discriminatory in nature or effect, and to involve elements of coercion. It said the labour schemes were closely linked to the anti-extremism framework and arbitrary detention, which “raises concerns in terms of the extent to which such programmes can be fully voluntary”. Forced medication and sexual abuse
Detainees were also forced to take medication or injections without explanation of what it was. It noted persistent claims of sexual abuse and violence in the facilities, and government denials which often used “personal or gendered attacks” against the women reporting allegations.
The report also found the Chinese government made a “clear link between frequency in child births and religious ‘extremism’”. It said there were “credible indications of violations of reproductive rights through the coercive enforcement of family planning policies”, including allegations of forced abortions, contraception and sterilisation. It noted Xinjiang’s rate of sterilisation was 243 procedures for every 100,000 inhabitants, compared with a national average of 32.
You need to look up what a primary source is. Also, ctrl-F Zens: 41 matches,
Or I could just read the report itself. It’s very telling that Uyghur genocide conspiracy theorists go with some western media outlet editorializing evidence, rather then just posting evidence itself.