• MrEUser@lemmy.ninja
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    1 year ago

    The problem with these lists is that people sneak things on to them.

    I’m an admin on (and owner of) lemmy.ninja. We have clear anti-harassment rules, up front, in bold, front page. We have zero bots (checked daily). We have users that are LGBTQIA+. I have zero tolerance for bigotry.

    Yet our site is on the lists provided.

    Apparently it doesn’t matter (the lists don’t work) because all of my cross posts (from my boomer shooter community) are available on beehaw.org in their gaming section.

    So these lists can be used as weapons, if they work. When thy don’t work they are just an indictment without evidence.

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      1 year ago

      Yet our site is on the lists provided.

      you’re wrong, your site is allowed by all the lists I mentioned.

      So these lists can be used as weapons, if they work

      These lists are not weapons, they are provided by the instances themselves. They are not false or artificial. They are current, and they display exactly what is real in the configuration of the servers.

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          1 year ago

          There are 3 categories in settings on your server, as far as I know: Linked, Allowed and Blocked. I don’t know the difference between Linked and Allowed, but yes, these links contain multiple lists on the same page. The format is the following: https://domain.tld/instances, you will normally find from 1 to 3 lists there, (the Linked, Allowed and Blocked lists). Linked is normal, Blocked is defederated. Idk what Allowed is but I think it is also federated so 🤷

          • neo (he/him)@lemmy.comfysnug.space
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            1 year ago

            Linked are servers that your server knows about (that have communicated with it)

            Allowed, or the allow-list, if present means that the server can only federate with servers in the allow list. This is the most restrictive setting possible.

            Block, or disallow-list, means that these servers may not federate with yours. This is where servers go generally when they are “defederated”.

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            1 year ago

            Thank you for the clarification. The problem I have is:

            Note that dbzer0 on the federation-checker.vercel.app shows we are being blocked. fba.ryona.agency shows that too, and apparently we are edgelords,don’t moderate, and have done something wrong with free speech…

            So something somewhere is broken…

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              The problem with dbzer0 is the same we had talked about before (edit: I talked with someone else from lemmy.ninja about this topic, your instance was blocked before). It’s old news. It’s from when you had a bot problem. Ryona has a cache and doesn’t clear it too often.

              The problem with toot.foundation has nothing to do with that, though. I have no idea why they would block you. You can find the up to date list of blocked instances on a mastodon by going to the https://instance.tld/about. For example, for toot.foundation, which does block lemmy.ninja, here is the updated blocklist at the bottom, you have to click Moderated servers: https://toot.foundation/about