It does seem unlikely to me that managers of the Israeli war machine would be getting this freaked out and whipping out their tired old “antisemitism” song and dance if there wasn’t something of su…
south africa didn’t get everything it wanted and the ruling was mostly a nothing burger since it was just a warning to israel that it is bound by the genocide convention, however you cannot say the ruling was in favor of israel as israel lost on almost all fronts. israel wanted this case to be thrown out on jurisdictional reasons which didn’t happen, they claimed that no sensible actor could perceive actions of israel as genocidal which was refuted by court, and most important of all they used statements made by israeli officials as indication of genocidal intent, which israel claimed was solely aimed at hamas (it was not everyone with at least 3 brain cells could’ve recognized that). even if court ordered more immediate measures israel and its allies wouldn’t follow them, so nothing really lost there.
all and all it was a medium sized propaganda win for the anti-zionist side since it questioned the absolute support western countries have thrown behind israel. human right watches and NGOs saying you may be doing genocide is one thing, an internationally recognized arbitration court saying it is a different thing. i doubt nothing will come out of it but still nice to have.
ah yes behave more carefully so that they don’t get caught committing a genocide lmao. since everyone cut funding to UNRWA after this ruling, i don’t think so. are they gonna arrest people that prevented aid trucks from coming in? are they gonna fire people that made genocidal statements? is there any sort of investigation in the military as to prevent war crimes and possible genocidal conduct? i somehow doubt after almost 4 months of doing a genocide they are suddenly going to change course.
More carefully means have less civilian casualties, which is a good thing for everyone. As for firing people - they are elected officials, I do not think it is possible to fire them, but they will shut up. Nearly every democratically elected parliament/congress has extreme members. Israel is no different. The problem is that while they are still a fringe in Israel, they are powerful fringe. This ruling helps to reduce their power. Again, a good thing for everyone, including for Israel.
south africa didn’t get everything it wanted and the ruling was mostly a nothing burger since it was just a warning to israel that it is bound by the genocide convention, however you cannot say the ruling was in favor of israel as israel lost on almost all fronts. israel wanted this case to be thrown out on jurisdictional reasons which didn’t happen, they claimed that no sensible actor could perceive actions of israel as genocidal which was refuted by court, and most important of all they used statements made by israeli officials as indication of genocidal intent, which israel claimed was solely aimed at hamas (it was not everyone with at least 3 brain cells could’ve recognized that). even if court ordered more immediate measures israel and its allies wouldn’t follow them, so nothing really lost there.
all and all it was a medium sized propaganda win for the anti-zionist side since it questioned the absolute support western countries have thrown behind israel. human right watches and NGOs saying you may be doing genocide is one thing, an internationally recognized arbitration court saying it is a different thing. i doubt nothing will come out of it but still nice to have.
I will argue it is a good thing for Israel too, since it’s right wing government will behave more carefully.
ah yes behave more carefully so that they don’t get caught committing a genocide lmao. since everyone cut funding to UNRWA after this ruling, i don’t think so. are they gonna arrest people that prevented aid trucks from coming in? are they gonna fire people that made genocidal statements? is there any sort of investigation in the military as to prevent war crimes and possible genocidal conduct? i somehow doubt after almost 4 months of doing a genocide they are suddenly going to change course.
More carefully means have less civilian casualties, which is a good thing for everyone. As for firing people - they are elected officials, I do not think it is possible to fire them, but they will shut up. Nearly every democratically elected parliament/congress has extreme members. Israel is no different. The problem is that while they are still a fringe in Israel, they are powerful fringe. This ruling helps to reduce their power. Again, a good thing for everyone, including for Israel.
You can’t call the people currently running Israel “a fringe”
I am not.
I was not referring to the whole government, only to fringe elements of it.
Benjamin Netanyahu is Prime Minister