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    9 months ago

    What do you believe is so unique about China’s PV production that couldn’t/haven’t been reproduced by the rest of the world? I mean, other than the ability to undercut developed countries by ignoring externalities and the damage caused to the environment by the extremely polluting extraction and refining process…

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m as happy as the next guy for more renewable, but here we are cheering for the kleptocrats.

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      9 months ago

      What do you believe is so unique about China’s PV production that couldn’t/haven’t been reproduced by the rest of the world? I mean, other than the ability to undercut developed countries by ignoring externalities and the damage caused to the environment by the extremely polluting extraction and refining process…

      The fuck are you talking about? The rest of the world definitely does reproduce that.

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        care to elaborate? The rest of the world definitely has higher environmental standards (and, more importantly, enforcement of them) than China. And that is a significant driver of the cost. You should read about the history of the PV industry in Germany before throwing insults.

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          9 months ago

          The rest of the world definitely has higher environmental standards (and, more importantly, enforcement of them) than China.

          Source: your ass

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            What’s the deal with you, exactly? Are you denying the many substantiated academic reports of environmental damage caused by rare-earth extraction and refining as part of some anti-China conspiracy? Just so I know if it’s worthy of my time to engage at all.

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              Your claims were that no other country other than China “undercut[s] developed countries by ignoring externalities and the damage caused to the environment by the extremely polluting extraction and refining process” and “The rest of the world definitely has higher environmental standards than China.”

              That you’re now pretending your claim was just that rare earth mining causes any environmental damage at all makes it pretty fucking obvious that you’re being wilfully dishonest.

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      9 months ago

      It’s been entirely innovation-based cost reduction. This comment shows a lack of understanding of the Chinese PV industry and how it outcompeted everyone else.

      In a year, it’s essentially dropped prices across the board by almost half.