• Jacob93@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    This is a rage bait headline. OpenAI has a plugin that you can give access to your messages. The claim that this is somehow different from any other use, or breaks some implied secrecy because it was encrypted, is nonsense. You never have control over what the person at the other end of a conversation does with that conversation and encryption was never meant to address that.

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      3 days ago

      This is a rage bait headline.

      Yes, it is.

      The claim that this is somehow different from any other use

      You never have control over what the person at the other end of a conversation does

      encryption was never meant to address that

      I wonder why Apple stans never bring this up when calling it the most private operating system that “cares” about user “privacy” and “security” when they can just hand over your E2EE messages after it’s decrypted, if a company has a “plugin”.

      Convenient, isn’t it?

      And if Apple has a plugin for OpenAI, think of what “plugins” the government has behind closed doors.

      But stans never stop repeating the same “encryption”, “privacy”, “security” talking points when defending it.

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        3 days ago

        I wonder why Apple stans never bring this up when calling it the most private operating system that “cares” about user “privacy” and “security” when they can just hand over your E2EE messages after it’s decrypted, if a company has a “plugin”.

        I don’t really understand what the point is you’re trying to make here.

        What does Apple have to do with what somebody you’re sending texts to does with the texts you sent them? What is any company supposed to do about that?

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            2 days ago

            Why would they do that? That wouldn’t stop the person you’re texting from just copying and pasting your texts into ChatGPT directly, which is your actual problem. If you text somebody, no matter how “private” it is, you have to trust the person you’re texting because you’re giving them those texts and they can do whatever they want with them.

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              2 days ago

              The blame is shifted to the person for airing their private texts then if they copy-paste the messages into ChatGPT.

              Otherwise, the blame is on Apple, who made the decision of sharing the texts.

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                2 days ago

                No… the blame is shifted to the person for sharing their private texts in this scenario. The blame is on the person, who made the decision of sharing the texts…

                Apple is uninvolved in the decision

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        3 days ago

        But has Apple ever allowed a third party cloud service to integrate with your text messages at the request of your best friend on their phone?

        E2EE solves the Two Generals Problem. There’s also the issue of flat out letting the bad guys in.