

They both suck pretty bad


They both suck pretty bad


You are correct, Dokploy and Coolify are both listed as inspirations for ZaneOps.


lol not quite but I catch your drift.


Portainer is a container management system. It’s purpose is to allow you to manage containers in an easy to use GUI.
ZaneOps is a PaaS that allows you to automatically build and deploy web apps into containers without having to configure the underlying infrastructure at all.
For example, to deploy my static site on Portainer, I’d have to build my static site, containerize it, upload the container image to a registry (or directly to Portainer), then use Portainer to configure the environment and deploy the container. Then I’d have to configure a reverse proxy or web server to serve the contents of the container. If I wanted to continue working on that static site I’d need to configure some kind of CI/CD pipeline to try and automate all that previous work.
With ZaneOps, I store the Astro/11ty/other SSG files in a Git repo, and on any commit ZaneOps will automatically recognize the SSG framework I’m using, use Docker Swarm to spin up a container to build the site into static files, containerize the resulting files for me, and deploy the container. It then uses Caddy underneath to serve what’s in the container including provisioning SSL certs for the site. It will health check the new container before deploying it in a blue/green deployment model so that the old site is removed only after the new one is up and available. It’s the same workflow as deploying a site to GitHub Pages using GitHub Actions if you’ve ever done that.
Ultimately. You end up with the same result, a containerized workload, but ZaneOps takes your GitHub Repo and turns it into a built, running, containerized workload automatically. Automating the deployment of my own web apps using Portainer would be at the very least clunky and require a lot of surrounding infrastructure. It’s not something Portainer just does out of the box.
Cockpit isn’t much like either, it’s just a web based server management tool.
Nothing. Just helps pay for development.
Wasn’t it stable like a month ago?
This was the peak of human civilization.


Like being able to return games? That was to comply with an Australian law, and it was just easier to implement it for everyone than just do it for Australia specifically.
Well you say that but Sony also has an online game marketplace that operates in Australia.
I don’t know how it works in Australia, but in the U.S. their return policy is not nearly as generous as Steam’s. In fact it Sony’s return policy only really exists on paper. In reality they don’t really do returns at all.


Yes and it’s so funny to me as somebody that works in datacenter and cloud infrastructure for public apps for a living. All the gatekeeping is done by hobbyists without the faintest clue but all the confidence in the world, or click ops internal IT sysadmins grossly overestimating their self worth.
Be safe, ask questions, and fuck what the haters think.


On the contrary, lots of us write our own scripts and programs. And when considering how to self host that software, serverless is a perfectly valid choice.
Just because many self hosters are hobbyists who are only capable of using things off the shelf doesn’t make self hosting infrastructure outside the scope of… selfhosting lol


Why wouldn’t serverless technologies be relevant to the self hosted community?


He who has never tasted bread would be contented by porridge.


They’re trying to cut costs to pay for the loans they took to make the acquisition


Those poor players lol
Mini PC. Beelinks with the N100 chip are absolute beasts at doing video encoding at low power.


UnRAID is also great when you know exactly what you’re doing but you do this stuff for work every day and your home stuff you want to be easy and out of the box lol.


UnRAID is very popular in the general self hosting community.


You’ve mistakenly conflated the Self Hosted community with the FOSS community. There is a lot of overlap in interests between the two, but the venn diagram of those communities are not at all a circle. UnRAID isn’t an exception to self hosting, it’s a textbook example of selfhosting.
It’s a similar thing with the SH community and HomeLabbing. All home labs are selfhosted obviously, but home labs are sandboxes for learning, testing and prototyping. A raspberry pi that runs one service your home depends on that you don’t tinker with outside of updates isn’t a home lab.
You’re right about that.
I do sometimes miss PlexAmp, but the native Emby application for music on iOS is pretty decent. Just kinda wish it was decoupled from the main app.