• deft@lemmy.wtf
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    They do. The important part of both is they mention there is no real list or hub or information to draw this from. Any other country that tracks suicide rates fits into roughly an even distribution alongside other factors like population density and food scarcity. China looks different because their data is completely wrong and disingenuous.

    China does not track this information for that specific purpose. You cannot get health information from China. They have done this with AIDS and COVID. Instead of facing an issue, they fudge the numbers.

    China is not an outlier, it is simply a liar

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        Well it isn’t my job to teach you history. China has a full history of information control especially around healthcare. A culture around denying suicide and a political interest in showing themselves to be better than they actually are.

        If you choose to embrace a lack of information as truth, that is you.

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          All countries have a political interest in showing themselves as better, though. I’m aware enough of China’s history to know that your allegations are just that, allegations.

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            They do but most countries have a means of tracking national suicide rates. China intentionally doesn’t and this is a repeated pattern with the country’s healthcare reporting.

            We simply can’t even argue about it because the data is unavailable. So this claim is also unverifiable.

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              So in other words, you don’t have any proof, and are using the lack of proof as evidence. That’s not how proof works.

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                That’s silly.

                In other words the data is incomplete from the top so any further discussion is speculation at best.

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                    Nope I’m noticing a discrepancy in data and pointing it out. What China does is hide information and the rest of you are embracing a speculation because again, the data isn’t available.