not to mention all the progress traps capitalism stepped into

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    Just to check, are you arguing for pure socialism or a blended system?

    gets somewhat fairly distributed to everyone… through the state.

    Not that capitalism doesn’t have its share of this problem, but this is a massive centralization of authority and management. How can that be safeguarded against inevitable corruption?

    Also, thoughts on how the ideal system would treat non-essential goods and best motivate innovation in “frivolities?” It’s one thing to want people to stop valuing excess wealth, but people are still going to want movies, video games, food ingredients from across the planet, etc.

    After all, humans do selfless acts for the benefit of their social group all the time, we just need to cultivate that part of our psyche instead of the greedy one.

    A tall order, but I give away a portion of my wealth regularly and like Star Trek, so I get it. Lol.

    I’m also personally quite attracted to anarchist ideologies, which don’t have as cohesive of an answer for dealing with greed but do promise an even more awesome society, with no central authority to be greedy whatsoever.

    Not just greed, but every negative human trait that can turn someone into a bad actor. Needing a system for dealing with bad actors and outside threats is how we got all these systems to begin with.

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      Just to check, are you arguing for pure socialism or a blended system?

      I’m arguing for literally anything that moves beyond capitalism. Whether it’s a Chinese-style mixed economy where haute capitalists are allowed but regulated, a NEP-style mixed economy where only small businesses are privately owned, a full-blown planned economy where no capitalists are allowed, a federation of co-ops…

      Not that capitalism doesn’t have its share of this problem, but this is a massive centralization of authority and management. How can that be safeguarded against inevitable corruption?

      Through democratic mechanisms, mostly. I won’t claim that democracy worked very well in USSR or China but it sure as hell is/was better for people living there than the capitalist “democracies” of the west.