Cross-posted from “FYI: StarTrek.website is no longer federating with Lemmy.dbzer0.com” by @Admin@startrek.website in !quarks@startrek.website
Crossposting here since y’all won’t be able to see it now that they’ve defederated us.
If you’re not familiar with how Lemmy/the Fediverse works, basically everything you read at StarTrek.website is hosted by us, even if the content originated elsewhere. That means we are responsible for everything here and we have to decide if we are comfortable boosting content from other instances.
If you’re curious, the final straw here was learning that db0 explicitly allows hosting discussions about hurting people, which needless to say goes against our instance values and we simply don’t have the manpower to moderate that volume of content incoming from their server to a degree that we feel meets our quality standards, which left defederating as the only viable option.
In keeping in line with past trends we’re announcing this because is is a larger instance and don’t want to leave any of the crew confused as to why something may be missing.
I don’t consider this a massive loss tbh. We already have !Risa@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !tenforward@lemmy.world was already more active than their whole instance. And I’m sure @Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com can provide the noxious lore of their instance if you’re interested. The only loss would be not having members such as @Kirk@startrek.website running around running interference for DDoSers like @ptz@dubvee.org. Also Admiral Patrick of the Tesseract fame, was also an admin on their instance iirc so this is a clear retaliation as far as I’m concerned, even though we didn’t actually do anything to AP.
But also
db0 explicitly allows hosting discussions about hurting people
What the fuck does this even mean? Can someone ask for an example? Is this about Luigi? IDFK…
PS: Will this drama season never end? I want my free time back >_<


It is always disappointing. Condoning violence is never acceptable. Unfortunately for us, news after new after news article, we see those who protest peaceful through speech have senseless violence imposed on them. They did not ask to be murdered.
The ones that asked, have 24/7 news coverage. But it’s okay because they say “it’s concerning”.
So now that some guy had enough and imposes justice that the law could never give. Through his actions paid one life to save hundreds?
True, it shouldn’t have come to that. True, the soulless husk in a thousand dollar tie should’ve been put to prison. But violence is the speech of the oppressed who see no other way to fight back.
It’s just okay to kill through oppression, because it’s “official”, “legal” and “their fault”.
Luigi is not a hero through the man he allegedly killed. He is a hero because he represents the fury of the people.
In our side, we welcome discussion on solving the problems that we hear about on a daily basis. But turning a blind eye while people are butchered right in the open will not help anyone.
What the fuck does this have to do with a DDoS attack using vibecoded Javascript?
What do you mean? Violence is acceptable or even good in many cases.
What do you call it when someone hurts or damages an attacking person until they stop?
Violence and the capacity to direct it underpins all power in society for good and ill. If you are not protected by it then you are vulnerable to anyone who is willing to use it. Ideally you don’t have to resort to violence but that doesn’t mean that when you do it’s bad.
sure it is. I condone Iran’s strikes on US military bases and ships. I condone Palestinian violence against their oppressors. I condoned that guy punching the nazi richard spenser. I retroactively condone a shitton of war violence, mostly against the US other than world war 2.
and you condone some or all of that too.
Literally every country I know of has a military. Police carry weapons. Sometimes people need to physically defend others. Violence ia culturally accepted everywhere. You should see the rampant soldier worship in the US.
What fanatasy world exists where there is never a reason for violence?
This is some stupid smear campaign. Examples or they can fuck off.