• nosuchanon@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    They figure they can use mass surveillance to control the restless masses and stifle the coming revolution.

    They are putting everything into the surveillance state and militarization of ICE/brownshirts.

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    13 hours ago

    this is the best time to be alive … if you are a billionaire oligarch

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      10 hours ago

      They could afford it, they’d just rather spend that money on cops and surveillance to crush unrest rather than social programs that would avoid it in the first place.

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    19 hours ago

    How much more pain can the US economy really withstand? I keep hearing about the mismanagement and how costly their mistakes have been (the Iran war, overspending on AI compared to China, the US debt, etc.)

    I keep hearing over and over that they are messing up, but when will their economy actually collapse? This might sound ignorant I’m sorry. I genuinely don’t understand how they are still alive

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOPM
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      It’s basically inertia, American economy has a massive stock of national wealth and trust. For decades, inflows like tax revenue and productive innovation filled the stock faster than outflows like debt and war spending drained it. And thanks to that, there’s a massive amount of resilience that’s been built up over many decades. Now the outflow is outpacing the inflow, but the existing stock is so large that we’re not seeing any catastrophic effects yet. A huge country can absorb a lot of pain before anything visibly changes. The US still has strong buffers like deep capital markets, the dollar’s reserve status, and a large domestic economy. Each successive mistake chips away at these buffers, and when the stock finally runs dry, the system will tip fast. The economy won’t collapse tomorrow, but it is living off stored up capital rather than current productive inflows. The damage is masked by the size of our existing stocks. Once those are gone, the real crash comes.

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      A lot, because there’s too many vassal countries propping up the US economy.
      They will be going down first, like East Germany before the USSR.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    19 hours ago

    I’d ask what the end goal of all this is, what amazing, strategic maybe, infrastructure planning, etc that this is all building up to, and it’s money. I don’t know how they’re planning on turning this into a profitable venture, but it’s money, it’s always just money. The people with everything want more.

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      It’s control. If you were trying to set up a massive 1984 nanny state, you would be doing the same thing. Collect all the data you can, encrypted or not. Finish working on quantum computers that can break basically all standard encryption, or just set up the infrastructure to make them faster. Then task all the LLM compute you can spare to identifying dissenters and destroying / isolating / marginalizing them, meanwhile anchoring and growing your base of support. Datacenters are at the heart of all of this.

      • nanny state

        Nanny state implies some level of care from the state rather than the stripping of every bit of governmental and societal support from every single individual in order to put them into a machine to grind them all into human juice