Yes, climate change is pretty terrible and the future looks gloomy. Also, I agree that everyone should do some planning and preparation for a disaster.
However, I’m not sure exactly what you’re getting at here. Yes, it’s terrifying that this particular metric is off the chart. However, what does it actually portend for people reading this post ? In Australia for example El Nino is a period of reduced rainfall. Not drought, just reduced rainfall. Yes sea surface temperatures are correlated with hurricanes but El Nino is an anomaly of sea surface temps in a very specific area of the pacific ocean.
Shit is fucked, but posting a vaguely scary graph and telling people to fill their bath tubs is more likely to build apathy and readiness atrophy than inspire people to build communities.
my only experience here is this post, but my understanding is that OP is trying to raise awareness and get people to rally for change for the climate in general. this chart may not affect you, but the things that caused it do
This post is titled “El Nino Update” and warns people to take action now. If it’s actual intent is to raise awareness of climate change in general then that’s an egregious click bait title.
Are you talking with people you are seeing for the first time and will never see again? Because those wouldnt be great targets to build community with.
Not really my strenght as well, but I recently listened to this podcast which seemed to have some solid advice around community building:
They’re saying this is normal now, the system is much higher energy and more chaotic, with bigger differentials to equalize. That means everything is far less predictable. That doesn’t sound so bad if youre a city-mouse who’s only worked fake-ass PMC email jobs, but if you’ve ever worked with logistics or agriculture you need a shower and a change of pants about now.
It means notable named states like ‘drought’ and ‘famine’ and ‘hurricane’ and ‘monsoon’, even totally new disasters we hadn’t seen before industrializing like rivers of fire sharknadoes and zombie-fire are going to be as normal to us in old age as rain and tornadoes were to our grandparents.
We’re probably losing more atmosphere to convection, too, but I say that based on absolutely nothing.
In simpler terms: first Europe turned into a literal god damn oven, at a temperature I can set my oven to. But I didn’t stop burning coal because it snowed here in the southern hemisphere.
Yes, climate change is pretty terrible and the future looks gloomy. Also, I agree that everyone should do some planning and preparation for a disaster.
However, I’m not sure exactly what you’re getting at here. Yes, it’s terrifying that this particular metric is off the chart. However, what does it actually portend for people reading this post ? In Australia for example El Nino is a period of reduced rainfall. Not drought, just reduced rainfall. Yes sea surface temperatures are correlated with hurricanes but El Nino is an anomaly of sea surface temps in a very specific area of the pacific ocean.
Shit is fucked, but posting a vaguely scary graph and telling people to fill their bath tubs is more likely to build apathy and readiness atrophy than inspire people to build communities.
my only experience here is this post, but my understanding is that OP is trying to raise awareness and get people to rally for change for the climate in general. this chart may not affect you, but the things that caused it do
This post is titled “El Nino Update” and warns people to take action now. If it’s actual intent is to raise awareness of climate change in general then that’s an egregious click bait title.
When else should we take action? There is really only now
We should take action now, with urgency. My point is, manipulating people is not the way to motivate them to take action.
How can i convince more people to build community?
Engage with them by having real honest discussions?
That doesn’t work. I try it every time I’m on the train.
Do you mean lie and say everything’s gonna be fine?
Are you talking with people you are seeing for the first time and will never see again? Because those wouldnt be great targets to build community with.
Not really my strenght as well, but I recently listened to this podcast which seemed to have some solid advice around community building:
Talking to Rural Conservatives - it first read out the zine with the same name and then starts a discussion about it
I do both. I do see some of them again; people have regularish schedules, but train is more for read than write.
I’ll get right on that as soon as people become less awful.
Religion! Earth is god oil is her blood demons have fooled the masses into killing her. Gaia is being murdered
I think the problem is that you might get drought this time around.
Do you have a source for that? Or is that vibe based reasoning?
They’re saying this is normal now, the system is much higher energy and more chaotic, with bigger differentials to equalize. That means everything is far less predictable. That doesn’t sound so bad if youre a city-mouse who’s only worked fake-ass PMC email jobs, but if you’ve ever worked with logistics or agriculture you need a shower and a change of pants about now.
It means notable named states like ‘drought’ and ‘famine’ and ‘hurricane’ and ‘monsoon’, even totally new disasters we hadn’t seen before industrializing like rivers of fire sharknadoes and zombie-fire are going to be as normal to us in old age as rain and tornadoes were to our grandparents.
We’re probably losing more atmosphere to convection, too, but I say that based on absolutely nothing.
In simpler terms: first Europe turned into a literal god damn oven, at a temperature I can set my oven to. But I didn’t stop burning coal because it snowed here in the southern hemisphere.
I don’t understand what the red line is. Where is it identified?
I presume its the current years temperature, 3.5 standard deviations above average.
In short, it’s on the top 0.01% of temperatures of the recorded data.