• Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    Yes, in specific circumstances from an outside observer Z. From the perspective of X and Y obviously they feel justified regardless of circumstances.

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      2 hours ago

      in specific circumstances

      No, in all circumstances. For instance, the justifications of the coloniser can be dismissed out of hand - in all circumstances.

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        2 hours ago

        I said to themselves, that doesn’t mean others can’t disagree and easily. While I don’t agree with Zionist reasoning they seem to feel justified through the argument that greater Israel is promised to them by their God. Always a fun one when people use their religion, it’s ultimately infallible to themselves through their faith albeit clearly misguided to those not faithful.

        It’s human nature at its core. Someone wants something, they craft a reasoning to get it and honestly it’s rare that the reasoning is actually any good, but all the same they believe it and they are internally justified to themselves. That doesn’t mean the justification is good or accurate or right or not easily dismissible by others, it just means they’re justified to themselves as I originally stated.

        A mind typically can’t or at least doesn’t do what it itself has not justified and unfortunately for us all human minds aren’t logically consistent, they are storytellers and you can bend logic two ways to Sunday with the right story at least for those who want to hear it.