After prolonged negotiations the two governments concluded a treaty, consisting of a political agreement and a military convention.
Is that what you are trying to pass off as an “alliance” between Makhno and the Whites? Negotiations between Petliura and Poland?
You do understand that Petliura was not a Makhnovist, right?
The Makhnovists didn’t hide their animosity towards the Bolsheviks either,
Gee… I wonder why.
If the Red Army was truly the threat to Makhnovschina the Makhnovists said it was,
Yeah… the genocidal campaign the Bolsheviks launched against Ukraine must have been just an oopsie, right? Just like the US blundering into Vietnam, right?
they would temporarily form alliances against the Red Arm
Again… you have provided ZERO evidence of any Makhnovist “alliance” against the Bolsheviks.
It’s pretty cut and dry that the Makhnovists worked with other groups against the Red Army at certain times, as I showed. “Alliance” doesn’t mean that the Makhnovists were hardcore Whites or anything, just that, like all factions, they were opportunistic and dealing with an intense crisis. Also, there was never a “genocidal campaign against Ukraine,” so I’m not sure where you’re getting that from. The Makhnovists opposed the Marxist formations propped up by the soviets, and tried to build an entirely different structure in Ukraine, which ultimately failed. There were ideological differences between the two groups that could not be reconciled, even if they could temporarily ally, just as they did with other factions during the civil war.
Is that what you are trying to pass off as an “alliance” between Makhno and the Whites? Negotiations between Petliura and Poland?
You do understand that Petliura was not a Makhnovist, right?
Gee… I wonder why.
Yeah… the genocidal campaign the Bolsheviks launched against Ukraine must have been just an oopsie, right? Just like the US blundering into Vietnam, right?
Again… you have provided ZERO evidence of any Makhnovist “alliance” against the Bolsheviks.
It’s pretty cut and dry that the Makhnovists worked with other groups against the Red Army at certain times, as I showed. “Alliance” doesn’t mean that the Makhnovists were hardcore Whites or anything, just that, like all factions, they were opportunistic and dealing with an intense crisis. Also, there was never a “genocidal campaign against Ukraine,” so I’m not sure where you’re getting that from. The Makhnovists opposed the Marxist formations propped up by the soviets, and tried to build an entirely different structure in Ukraine, which ultimately failed. There were ideological differences between the two groups that could not be reconciled, even if they could temporarily ally, just as they did with other factions during the civil war.
Do I need to remind you off your own claim? Here it is…
You have provided no evidence that such an alliance ever existed. And now…
…you are attempting to modify your claim after the fact.
This conversation goes no further until you admit to your error.