• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      10 hours ago

      That’s why you organize the working classes beforehand. There isn’t a “delete the state instantly” button, all successful revolutions have happened with highly organized groups taking advantage of popular unrest to overthrow the old and replace with the new, be it the French Revolution, Russian, Vietnamese, Cuban, etc.

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        3 hours ago

        If you can organize the working classes that fully before violence, you have enough alignment to use democratic or other non-violent means to change the system.

        The real problem is that it doesn’t matter if your end goal is violence or not - it’s that the current state will bring violence to you loooong before you are able to organize that sufficiently. Including villianizing you - which plans of violence and destabilization help them with.

        You can’t say “we’ll organize first” because no you can’t.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          You cannot actually use democratic means to change the system from within. Even with high levels of organization, you still have to smash the capitalist state apparatus. Organizing requires at least creating a disciplined party that is trusted and supported by the majority of the revolutionary class, as a party can do very little by itself. The party’s job is to educate, organize, and lead the rest of the revolutionary class, not to itself be the revolution.