• therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    Control has passed peacefully from a dictatorship to democracy,

    Liberal oligarchy does not qualify as democracy.

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      1 day ago

      If the people have a voice, then there’s a path forward.

      I don’t know why that’s so hard to understand, but then again. I’ve seen what the fascists have done to the education systems of the world.

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        24 hours ago

        If the people have a voice,

        And what does this “voice” matter in a liberal oligarchy? Doesn’t seem to me that it’s influencing anything…

        I’ve seen what the fascists have done to the education systems of the world.

        You haven’t seen squat. And, considering that you came here from .world, I don’t even think you’d know what a fascist is if one where to bite you on the arrse.

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          24 hours ago

          News flash, the only other option besides “the people have a voice” is “the people have no voice”.

          No voice means dictatorship, or monarchy if the first fucker puts their spawn on the throne, Vanguard Party is the same shit, a dictatorship by another name.

          Dictators, kings, oligarchs, would be dictators, fascists, conservatives, tankies, and anyone else who would deny a person a voice in their government are all the same sort of person as well.

          They say their voice matters more than anyone else’s, and will often use violence to enforce it.

          That’s what I see in a lot of people. Especially people who want to start a bloody civil war so that they can force a stateless existence on people without understanding that they want a power vacuum where the bloodthirstiest bastard around will see an opportunity.

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            24 hours ago

            News flash, the only other option besides “the people have a voice”

            Then show me how your voice matters. Shouldn’t be too difficult, right?

            conservatives,

            Oh, sooo… liberals?

            who want to start a bloody civil war so that they can force a stateless existence

            Sooo… like Makhno?

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              24 hours ago

              Makhno failed, and also famously never tried to force anything on anyone. He tried to build something new in a country that already had its government toppled by war.

              Also, I don’t give a fuck about liberals. They’re just conservatives who like rules and order more than hurting people.

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                23 hours ago

                and also famously never tried to force anything on anyone.

                Where do you get your history from, Clyde? AI?

                He tried to build something new in a country that already had its government toppled by war.

                He was an anarchist fighting state forces, brightspark.

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                  22 hours ago

                  Seems you don’t understand anything at all.

                  Makhno was an anarchist, but he worked together with his community to build something more. He was building a State, but a very different State, one built on communication and compromise between people working together. No force needed there.

                  The place where force was needed was fighting off the authoritarian assholes in Berlin and Moscow.