• chaogomu@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Go read a history book.

      Hell, even a recent history book will do it. There are a fuckload of examples throughout the world of a functional society having their government either couped or otherwise toppled. Syria is a prime example.

      And I know, you’re just going to blame external meddling. But news flash, it’s impossible to escape external meddling. Even going back to antiquity when a civil war kicked off, the neighboring countries would often meddle, sometimes as an invading army, sometimes by cutting deals to support one side or the other, sometimes secretly both, or more than both if it was a truly messy war.

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        Go read a history book.

        Says the person who doesn’t seem to have read any.

        A coup does not result in the destruction of the state, genius - that’s the whole point of a coup.

        Syria is a prime example.

        No, Syria still has a state… unless you have any proof that it has been destroyed that nobody else in the world knows about?

        And I know, you’re just going to blame external meddling

        Why would I? You can’t even prove the basic assumptions your claims are based on.

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          24 hours ago

          The Syrian State lost control, resulting in a massive civil war where everyone meddled.

          Loss of control is the destruction of a State. That’s what it looks like.

          It became a quagmire of sectarian violence with about a dozen different sides. Some communities were actually doing cool shit, some were engaging in genocides.

          In the end, a new State had to be created, and even now things are not quite peachy keen in the country.

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            24 hours ago

            Loss of control is the destruction of a State.

            No. That’s not how states work.

            a new State had to be created

            Nope. Again, that’s not how states work. Somebody else seizing a state does not mean the state has ceased to exist.

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              22 hours ago

              So, you think the State is some vague magic conspiracy then? No, it’s the government and associated bureaucracies. The rules and regulations by which society functions.

              It’s the tool of control, and when it’s not in control, it’s just a group of armed thugs.