What’s the point? Why are you posting this in a thread about the United States? Whatabout China? Complementing Xi is a very weird thing to do randomly.
Frankly, I think it’s either mental gymnastics from tankies to defend Xi Jinping or someone arriving late to the Xinnie the Pooh meme and assuming it has its origins in yellow = Chinese, Chinese = Xi Jinping.
Here’s some reading on the topic I just did to confirm I had it right and you had it wrong:
I’ve read the wiki page, but thanks for linking it again. The fact that the meme originated in China, but spread like wildfire in the west, needs to be examined. Xi Jinping is incredibly popular in China, legitimately so. A picture comparing Xi to Winnie and Obama to Tigger (wonder why?) showed up online. There wasn’t mass protest against Xi Jinping or anything.
What then exploded was western usage of the meme, beyond its origins, and in a new context. Largely among the anti-communist right, vile depictions and distortions of Xi Jinping began to take place, creating a racialized caricature. By this point the meme faded away near entirely in China, and instead became a symbol of hatred towards Xi Jinping in particular and the PRC in general in the west.
The western obsession with depicting Xi Jinping as a yellow bear is what is racist, and hiding behind the fact that the first iteration of the meme came from China, before it became distorted by the west, is a “get out of jail free” card for racists. It isn’t only communists that can correctly identify this, marginalized groups that have been caricaturized by westerners can also see this easily.
Strange that you say I “linked it again” considering I linked it one time. Anyway,
Americans/westerners love shitting on communism; it’s generally not a racism issue. I think you know that, but you’re again doing tankie mental gymnastics to defend Xi Jinping/the CCP.
Is it possible some people use it for racist reasons? Absolutely.
I just don’t think it’s that deep for the vast majority of people who use the meme. I certainly wouldn’t go so far as to say the use of it at all is inherently racist as you did and continue to do.
Signed,
Someone who thinks the meme is funny because it pisses off tankies and literally never made the potential racism connection that Winnie the Pooh had yellow fur until today.
You sound like you have the privilege of being white and not having to deal with racism. Being anti-communist and being racist tend to have much overlap. I have been racially abused and heard more orientalist nonsense then you could even imagine during my brief stint on Reddit and from many people from anti-communist instances such as the one you post from.
I said “again” as in I had seen it before and you gave me a chance to revisit it and confirm I’m correct.
As for Statesians loving to shit on communism, this is correct. Statesians are also wildly racist, and usually combine the two. Orientalism runs deep, and as such depictions of Eastern socialism usually involve deep degrees of racial caricature. Other vile memes involve depicting Chinese people as “bugmen” and as a “hive-mind,” which combines racist views of Asians with anti-communism. I’m sure you know this, you’re just refusing to see it because it’s uncomfortable to admit after you defended a racist caricature.
If you just learned about why Chinese people view the meme as racist, why not just change your views? Is your anti-communist thrill so great as to prevent you from growing as a person? That’s a rhetorical question, you don’t need to answer. I just recommend you reflect, rather than deflect.
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What’s the point? Why are you posting this in a thread about the United States? Whatabout China? Complementing Xi is a very weird thing to do randomly.
Why are you doing this? Are you just being racist to get a reaction from people?
How is it racist?
It’s definitely a Whataboutism but… I don’t see any racism here.
You don’t see how depicting an Asian man as a yellow bear is racist?
Considering the meme originates in China, no.
Frankly, I think it’s either mental gymnastics from tankies to defend Xi Jinping or someone arriving late to the Xinnie the Pooh meme and assuming it has its origins in yellow = Chinese, Chinese = Xi Jinping.
Here’s some reading on the topic I just did to confirm I had it right and you had it wrong:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China#Comparisons_between_Xi_Jinping_and_Winnie-the-Pooh
I’ve read the wiki page, but thanks for linking it again. The fact that the meme originated in China, but spread like wildfire in the west, needs to be examined. Xi Jinping is incredibly popular in China, legitimately so. A picture comparing Xi to Winnie and Obama to Tigger (wonder why?) showed up online. There wasn’t mass protest against Xi Jinping or anything.
What then exploded was western usage of the meme, beyond its origins, and in a new context. Largely among the anti-communist right, vile depictions and distortions of Xi Jinping began to take place, creating a racialized caricature. By this point the meme faded away near entirely in China, and instead became a symbol of hatred towards Xi Jinping in particular and the PRC in general in the west.
The western obsession with depicting Xi Jinping as a yellow bear is what is racist, and hiding behind the fact that the first iteration of the meme came from China, before it became distorted by the west, is a “get out of jail free” card for racists. It isn’t only communists that can correctly identify this, marginalized groups that have been caricaturized by westerners can also see this easily.
Strange that you say I “linked it again” considering I linked it one time. Anyway,
Americans/westerners love shitting on communism; it’s generally not a racism issue. I think you know that, but you’re again doing tankie mental gymnastics to defend Xi Jinping/the CCP.
Is it possible some people use it for racist reasons? Absolutely.
I just don’t think it’s that deep for the vast majority of people who use the meme. I certainly wouldn’t go so far as to say the use of it at all is inherently racist as you did and continue to do.
Signed,
Someone who thinks the meme is funny because it pisses off tankies and literally never made the potential racism connection that Winnie the Pooh had yellow fur until today.
You sound like you have the privilege of being white and not having to deal with racism. Being anti-communist and being racist tend to have much overlap. I have been racially abused and heard more orientalist nonsense then you could even imagine during my brief stint on Reddit and from many people from anti-communist instances such as the one you post from.
I said “again” as in I had seen it before and you gave me a chance to revisit it and confirm I’m correct.
As for Statesians loving to shit on communism, this is correct. Statesians are also wildly racist, and usually combine the two. Orientalism runs deep, and as such depictions of Eastern socialism usually involve deep degrees of racial caricature. Other vile memes involve depicting Chinese people as “bugmen” and as a “hive-mind,” which combines racist views of Asians with anti-communism. I’m sure you know this, you’re just refusing to see it because it’s uncomfortable to admit after you defended a racist caricature.
If you just learned about why Chinese people view the meme as racist, why not just change your views? Is your anti-communist thrill so great as to prevent you from growing as a person? That’s a rhetorical question, you don’t need to answer. I just recommend you reflect, rather than deflect.
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