I guess it’s time to leave Ubuntu as a new user and switch to a new distro. Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Mint were my choice, but their base, Ubuntu, is becoming “bloated”, and turning to a latest computers’ OS. And I think it will affect its derivatives. Which distro would you suggest to switch to. I aint rich. I’m already aware of Fedora and its xfce, kde spins, Opensuse Leap and Tumbleweed, Debian and its derivatives, and Void. Are you planning to switch too.
I understand why people choose to leave Ubuntu and of course am OK with it. I for example don’t like Snaps, too.
I have been visiting and leaving Ubuntu for 15 years and now I’m back again (coming from years of Fedora).
I wouldn’t say it’s more bloated, nor does it require more resources. But I prefer the adapted Gnome version where you can minimize windows and everything is a little less hassle (in my case configuring the printer).
In your case, I’d try out Fedora. Its installation is quite minimal.
I hate when people here complain of “bloat” since often it just means “there’s this one thing I don’t use and it irrationally offends me by its existence”.
You can uninstall just about anything you don’t want. So very much not like Windows in that regard.
Are you running out of space? Out of memory? Or simply offended that some functionality you don’t like exists?
Give us some examples of boats. My laptop runs Ubuntu 24.04, and it has been running smoothly, using only 1.2 GB of RAM after booting.
Catamaran, schooner, big ole pirate ship, ferry boat, fishing boat
… What?
He just can’t understand little typos :)
That was obviously a joke though, and it wasn’t even OP.
Very clever. Seems like a typical Ubuntu hater ;)
So the bloat is on the disk, ISO file size, not on ram or performance or something?
The ISO is big because it contains programs that you can install only if you choose to during the installation process. You can opt for a minimal installation.
Ok, I see, thanks for the info, man. That’s very helpful.
Can you give some examples of the bloat?
GNOME desktop and background processes others distros don’t have?
Classifying gnome as bloat is a good one :D
I have little love for Canonical, but I wouldn’t go that far. What makes an OS ‘the Windows’ of something is in my eyes the heaps of useless surveillance, which ubuntu lacks.
I’ve been using opensuse tumbleweed for quite some time on my systems, and been pretty happy with it, in case you need an endorsement.
When I first switched to Linux 18 months ago everyone raved that mint is the easiest most user friendly windows like operating system and I would be best of using that one.
I hated mint, and having now done 12ish total Linux installs I have enjoyed everything else I have used significantly more. Anything running kde plasma seems to actually be the most windows like for new users, best I can tell.
it’s not like i can’t do a distro without plasma, i just refuse to xD
I think a lot of the hate is snaps. Ubuntu has pushed a technology on the users that is unpopular before (Unity) and largely ignored the criticism, which is a Windows-like behavior. I can attest that snaps really sucked on old hardware when they first rolled out. I haven’t really used Ubuntu since 22.04, so I can’t comment on the current state of snaps, other than to say that a buddy swears they are way faster now. It’s a rock and a hard place situation for Canonical though, because if Firefox from apt crashes, Ubuntu gets hate, not Firefox.
You only noticed recently?
Yes, just recently, as a new user.
Of course I don’t planning any switch. For me it works perfectly. Access to one of the biggest repo, constant support, Ubuntu PRO with extended support timeline, snaps with needed software, flatpak near that all for missing software plus I building my own repo with COSMIC desktop. I have everything for my workflow. Why switching? Btw. I don’t see any bloat here. With minimal install it comes with minimal set of packages. Just a most required one.
Are you saying Ubuntu isnt slow? The bloat only comes from the pre-installed apps, snap, and gnome desktop?
Ubuntu feels a bit slow, the snaps I think is that problem as they launch slower. But Ubuntu-based distros don’t use snaps (Mint, popOS).
There are also Ubuntu-based distros that don’t use gnome (Mint, popOS).
There are also non-Ubuntu distros that do use gnome. There’s people who like gnome and people who don’t, but it’s not “bloat” and it’s not limited to Ubuntu.
Sorry, it’s too much :D
