because doing so would land me in a mental institution
Source? Most (Western) countries have requirements like “Must be in acute danger to themselves or others” to involuntarily commit you. Even self harm, as long as it doesn’t put your life at significant risk, is insufficient.
Even suicide prevention hotlines don’t send tracking information to emergency services as long as you aren’t e.g. telling them you will kill yourself right before hanging up.
The fact you’ve been having these thoughts for 25 years makes me think you weren’t in acute danger for (the vast majority of) that time.
I mean he’s right, you can’t answer the questions they ask completely truthfully. They will consider you a risk to yourself. Then you get your rights removed.
When suicide is one of the only ways we have control over our experience, I’m not sure why it’s so shocking that someone would think about it daily.
I mean he’s right, you can’t answer the questions they ask completely truthfully.
Honestly: If you are able to make a therapist appointment by yourself, the likelihood you pose such a high risk to yourself that you will be involuntarily committed seems rather low. I mean:
You are functioning sufficiently to get through all the barriers put in your way to see a therapist
You clearly care about your mental health
You are able to think rationally
Passive suicidal ideation (e.g. thinking about suicide regularly) sucks but it’s largely harmless in the short to medium term. And that’s what involuntary commitment focuses on. Like, you’re not going to be strapped down on a hospital bed because you said you don’t go to the doctor for preventative care, even though it’s deadly in the long-term.
This is in reference to people during a psychotic break. They behave irrationally and can be extremely hostile. So yes, unstable people running around in the public with knifes should receive psychological help, voluntary or not. Even if we lived in an anarcho-communist utopia these people will not vanish (although there might be fewer cases due to lower stressors) and must be treated.
Source? Most (Western) countries have requirements like “Must be in acute danger to themselves or others” to involuntarily commit you. Even self harm, as long as it doesn’t put your life at significant risk, is insufficient.
Even suicide prevention hotlines don’t send tracking information to emergency services as long as you aren’t e.g. telling them you will kill yourself right before hanging up.
The fact you’ve been having these thoughts for 25 years makes me think you weren’t in acute danger for (the vast majority of) that time.
I mean he’s right, you can’t answer the questions they ask completely truthfully. They will consider you a risk to yourself. Then you get your rights removed.
When suicide is one of the only ways we have control over our experience, I’m not sure why it’s so shocking that someone would think about it daily.
Can’t even talk about it.
Honestly: If you are able to make a therapist appointment by yourself, the likelihood you pose such a high risk to yourself that you will be involuntarily committed seems rather low. I mean:
Passive suicidal ideation (e.g. thinking about suicide regularly) sucks but it’s largely harmless in the short to medium term. And that’s what involuntary commitment focuses on. Like, you’re not going to be strapped down on a hospital bed because you said you don’t go to the doctor for preventative care, even though it’s deadly in the long-term.
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This is in reference to people during a psychotic break. They behave irrationally and can be extremely hostile. So yes, unstable people running around in the public with knifes should receive psychological help, voluntary or not. Even if we lived in an anarcho-communist utopia these people will not vanish (although there might be fewer cases due to lower stressors) and must be treated.