• Starya67@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Ones that don’t whittle on about flossing. In fact, one told me he preferred it if people didn’t because they were just pushing bacteria into their gums.

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        you are probably flossing it wrong, you arnt suppose to jam it into the gums that will cause erosions and bleeding, and potential infection. also just move it from side to side once, not SAW it like you are sawing wood. depending on which flosser you are using. you do and “up and down motion”

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          It took me over 10 dentist before I found one that actually flossed my teeth correctly during cleanings. Had one go so hard I ended up having them rip my gums open.

          It’s absurdly common for lazy or shitty dentists to be way overly forceful. A lot of dentists are just generally really fucking shit at their job.

          It also varies wildly based on where you are. Some places you would be hard-pressed to find a bad dentist while in others it’s basically all you have.

          One of my worse dentists actually pushed so hard on one of my teeth with a pick he cracked it and fucked my gums up. Felt like I got punched in the god damn jaw.

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        Don’t go back to that dentist… There’s a ton of research that proves flossing works as intended. Bacteria are really small, they don’t need assistance to go into your gums. The point of flossing is that it removes the food and biofilm that gets stuck between teeth that bacteria feed upon and multiply.

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          It definitely at least stops plaque from forming, which otherwise irritates the gums so they eventually recede. Some people somehow just don’t get plaque for some reason so in that case it’s maybe pointless, but most people do.

          It is funny though how dentists still feel closer to some kind of village shaman. Each performing their weird rituals, absolutely convinced that they’re correct and all others are clearly wrong. Probably because they’re not actual doctors and also happen to have a horrible monetary conflict of interest to let people have terrible teeth.

          • 𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠@programming.dev
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            Some people somehow just don’t get plaque for some reason so in that case it’s maybe pointless, but most people do.

            Brushing twice a day, properly (with good toothpaste and a good electric toothbrush) basically eliminates the need for flossing.

            EDIT: ITT, people who don’t realize flossing is terribly ineffective and hasn’t been recommended by the US government for a decade now, because studies showed that the floss wire doesn’t provide enough friction to actually effectively clean anything. If you find that despite thorough brushing you still build up plaque, occasionally use a toothpick instead.

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              Nope, not even with an electric one. It doesn’t get into the areas between the teeth at all if you’re using it at intended pressures.

              • A proper toothbrush has bristles for that specific purpose… Proper toothpaste gets into those areas too to help remove any plaque. If you maintain it properly, there’s no reason to floss in addition.

                In fact, flossing is a terrible way to remove plaque. The wire itself doesn’t provide enough friction to remove just about anything. It’s why the US government hasn’t recommended daily flossing since 2016. It’s nice you can get a wire in between your teeth, unfortunately you’re not really cleaning anything with it there.

                If you find you’re still building up plaque even after brushing thoroughly, use a toothpick instead, that is a more effective way to clean it.

        • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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          23 hours ago

          Whoa. Citations on this? I rememberJeff Donn did an expose on this released by the AP in 2016 and it turns out that there really wasn’t good quality data on flossing at all. Has this changed since then?

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            Here ya go.

            Determining what is and isn’t quality data is kinda open to semantic interpretation. The reason there isn’t a huge study like what you see with cancer or heart disease is because something like flossing is dependent on accurate and honest self reporting from participants. And it’s not exactly something you can really tell if your participants are being diligent or not at a large scale.

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              Admittedly that’s the best I’ve seen as far as data. TbF, not exactly a “ton of research”. As alluded to in the meme, my dentist always seems to think they can tell at least roughly how well I’m flossing.

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                There are quite a few more small sample studies out there, like I said it’s just something that is hard to accurately case study at a large scale because it relies primarily on participants accurately reporting a specific habit.

                It’s anecdotal, but most dentists claim they can tell if someone flosses regularly. It makes sense, as people who floss more regularly will have less plaque and biofilm building up between teeth.

                I don’t really see why people are so skeptical about it. If the main benefit of brushing is to mechanically remove plaque and biofilm from the surface of teeth, it would make sense that mechanically removing the plaque and biofilm between the teeth would also be effective.

                Just because there is an absence of a study that encompasses thousands of people for a claim, doesn’t mean there is no supporting evidence. I mean who would even pay for that large of a study for research for flossing anyways, and how would it be conducted?

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        lol bad dentist. Flossing is the only thing that has stopped my teeth from falling apart. Went from a cavity or root canal every couple years to near perfect checkups time after time. I brushed before, too.

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          it prevents tartar buildup on the gum lines, otherwise its very difficult to move without dentists appointments. there are toothpaste or tools, but those are not reccommended.