I’ve watched the video and work at Atlassian, that’s entirely not what the video is. The guy basically just goes over what he worked on and some things he learned. It’s basically a solid video resumé with a clickbait title. Nothing he says is new or scandalous - most of it’s open source.
Atlassin is such a weird company to me. Used bitbucket a decade ago and everything just kept changing, things bought, what I used didn’t feel like it got better. Is it a good place to work?
The company claims good values and I would say mostly lives up to them, especially transparency. Though overall it is slowly becoming more corporate as it grows and especially leans in to AI hype.
The people and compensation and benefits are great, you get a lot of resources (can just spin up a fully hosted app via a terminal command if you want).
I am also lucky to be part of a small, internal-facing, chill, and yet important team so my experience on day-to-day work would definitely differ from a random Jira dev though.
I’ve not yet met anybody who has disliked working at the company — everybody dislikes the ‘APEX’ system used for measuring performance though lmao.
As someone who is using the Atlassian stack daily, Bitbucket (self hosted) is by far the best product from the stack. Jira is okay if you actually plan on using its features extensively. Confluence is… Well, it tries. I’d even prefer plain Mediawiki over it.
That’s funny, before I joined Atlassian my previous company also used their stack and Confluence was the only product I could stomach. All the products have rapidly evolved over the last few years though.
Jira is extremely configuration dependent. It can be good and it can be awful. Companies with bad processes will configure it in the same way and I believe that’s where most of the hate comes from.
Bitbucket is pretty decent by now. It’s just not very feature rich. But that’s not really a problem for this type of software if you hand over to other tools with the extensive web hooks.
But confluence… It feels like it has been stuck in time while Mediawiki is continually closing the gap. Especially automatically updating pages is a pain with the weird and fragile code that represents the pages internally.
This is spot on, I’ve used four Jira system that if I didn’t know they were all Jira, I would have though they were different products with similar “generic enterprise” styling. That being said, I’ve rather strongly disliked every instance of Jira I’ve used. It probably stems from the fact that I have maintained and built over a dozen ticketing systems over the years and some of the annoyances and rough edges just feel like solved problems to me.
I’ve watched the video and work at Atlassian, that’s entirely not what the video is. The guy basically just goes over what he worked on and some things he learned. It’s basically a solid video resumé with a clickbait title. Nothing he says is new or scandalous - most of it’s open source.
Atlassin is such a weird company to me. Used bitbucket a decade ago and everything just kept changing, things bought, what I used didn’t feel like it got better. Is it a good place to work?
The company claims good values and I would say mostly lives up to them, especially transparency. Though overall it is slowly becoming more corporate as it grows and especially leans in to AI hype.
The people and compensation and benefits are great, you get a lot of resources (can just spin up a fully hosted app via a terminal command if you want).
I am also lucky to be part of a small, internal-facing, chill, and yet important team so my experience on day-to-day work would definitely differ from a random Jira dev though.
I’ve not yet met anybody who has disliked working at the company — everybody dislikes the ‘APEX’ system used for measuring performance though lmao.
Didn’t the name come from one of the founders being a huge Ayn Rand stan? That sounds like a red flag.
As someone who is using the Atlassian stack daily, Bitbucket (self hosted) is by far the best product from the stack. Jira is okay if you actually plan on using its features extensively. Confluence is… Well, it tries. I’d even prefer plain Mediawiki over it.
That’s funny, before I joined Atlassian my previous company also used their stack and Confluence was the only product I could stomach. All the products have rapidly evolved over the last few years though.
Jira is extremely configuration dependent. It can be good and it can be awful. Companies with bad processes will configure it in the same way and I believe that’s where most of the hate comes from. Bitbucket is pretty decent by now. It’s just not very feature rich. But that’s not really a problem for this type of software if you hand over to other tools with the extensive web hooks. But confluence… It feels like it has been stuck in time while Mediawiki is continually closing the gap. Especially automatically updating pages is a pain with the weird and fragile code that represents the pages internally.
I used to hate Jira. Until I had to use Clickup. I don’t mind Jira anymore.
This is spot on, I’ve used four Jira system that if I didn’t know they were all Jira, I would have though they were different products with similar “generic enterprise” styling. That being said, I’ve rather strongly disliked every instance of Jira I’ve used. It probably stems from the fact that I have maintained and built over a dozen ticketing systems over the years and some of the annoyances and rough edges just feel like solved problems to me.
There’s better wikis than mediawiki?
It’s really good but not the first choice for casual users.
I would fire myself if I had to work there