Posting this here as I feel like similar things are happening in open source projects we like to host.
Exactly what I’m feeling… I don’t know of any companies that aren’t drinking the koolaid. My friend recently got laid off. He suspects it was because it was constantly pushing back on AI slop from other engineers.
I’ve been skipping the AI questions on recent company surveys… a few days ago, my manager directly asked me for “my thoughts on AI” during our 1:1… kinda freaked me out… I didn’t say anything bad about AI, but I also wasn’t gushing over how much I love AI (I hate AI)… I feel like they’re watching me a little more closely now… I’m going to start answering that I love AI on our surveys now… 😢
I don’t feel like they genuinely care about discovering if AI works. The AI questions are usually like: “Do you like AI?” and the answers are like “A: Yes”, “B: FUCK YES”, or “C: omg please more AI!”
You join a meeting with a coworker. Your coworker has enabled an AI tool to automatically take notes and summarize the meeting. They do not ask for consent to turn it on. The tool mischaracterizes what you discuss.
I just had a Teams meeting where a business partner added their AI assistant to the call and said that it would record audio/video for training purposes.
They didn’t ask for permission or anything, just joined and turned it on. Like wtf? Where does it store the data? What is it used for?
If I wasn’t forced to attend I would have left then and there.
You say, “what’s the privacy policy for your AI assistant?” and then keep asking questions like that until the person running the call gets annoyed that this has taken over their agenda and they’ll ban people from using unapproved AI agents on calls.
“Where is the data stored?” “Has this tool been approved by IT?” “Did you get consent from everyone to be recorded?” “Does the employee handbook say you can record other employees?” “Is my voice going to be used by an AI company to train a model?” etc.
Call me a coward but I can’t blame someone for not having the strength to keep that up. Especially if it causes friction with your coworkers who you have to interact with every day.
You’re not a coward, that comment is horrible advice.
It’s good for “oh I oughtta…!” online, but in real life there are significantly more professional/adult ways of solving the problem than asking semi-rhetorical questions that barely make sense in the hopes of guiding someone toward the desired outcome. Please don’t actually do that.
Asking “what does the employee handbook say about X??” isn’t a “gotcha.” You can literally go look, then tell us.
It’s ok to ask not to be recorded in a small meeting. You don’t need to bring up your unfamiliarity with the employee handbook.
I love asking the “how do you know” all day, but our official IT people have been bitten by outlook and cloud and LLMs so badly that they completely overlook the CLOUD ACT risks and general sovereignty issues inherent with using those from outside America.
So the “has this been approved” part is not gonna go like I’d like.
They make you attend the meeting, but if you’re like me you’ll be messaging your boss and saying "I’m not okay with being recorded, so I’ll just mute and shutter for the duration, thanks. I think that’s the best we can do.
I’m lucky that
- we’re union
- we have really strong provisions around recording
- my boss is awesome
…so we can refuse to interact while being recorded, without fear of reprisal.
I was in a physical meeting where the other part cracked open their Windows laptop so we could go over documents together. Halfway in I noticed the microphone icon was on in the system bar.
Considering Microsoft and the state of Windows, I’m guessing the entire conversation is liable to be used as training data, and I would really have liked the option to nope the hell out in advance.
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What do you mean?
paperclips and the intoxication of 2027+ AI content while the world is collapsing.
2 degrees, 15 years of experience, senior level title and now I’m unemployed. I’ve never wanted to own a farm so badly in my life, but even the agriculture industry is a nightmare (Monsanto). I’m just applying weekly in hopes to secure a job that will probably be gone in less than 3 years.
you sound like me. double majored (big mistake. there is no space to put a second major but space to put multiple minors. its not plain enough on transcripts and the diploma so you get less respect than if it was a minor). many certs and a masters. over 25 years in teh field. come september I will be unemployed for 2 years.
AI is rapidly eroding any joy or satisfaction I once derived from my development job. It’s being pushed hard despite its many problems and limitations, and I’m pretty sure they’ll eventually be considering your AI leverage when determining raises, layoffs, etc. I know better than to voice my concerns about it, I’ve been around long enough to know when the company has its mind made up about something and expects everyone to get on board or get out of the way.
I don’t know where to go to escape it, though. Every company seems to be going all-in on AI and I’m not sure what else I could do with my education and skill set. And it’s not like my family can afford for me to take a pay cut in the current economy.
I’m pretty sure they’ll eventually be considering your AI leverage when determining raises, layoffs, etc.
It’s already started. Where I work, LLM usage has become the one single metric to judge who’s a good and who’s a bad software engineer. It’s depressing and infuriating. I have very talented people on my team, but their low LLM usage makes them “worthless”. Meanwhile some morons who have always been shit engineers are called “champions” because they burn 2000 Claude credits a month.
What makes me really mad is that the best engineers look worse because they don’t need the slop crutch to do their job effectively, while shit-tier engineers and lazy motherfuckers burn an insane amount of resources to implement the most basic functionality.
I’m waiting for the reckoning with impatience…
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Things will get more expensive as the consequences of US foreign and domestic policy pile up. If your family can’t afford you to take a pay cut, understand that your family will be under water within the next few years regardless of what you do, and prepare accordingly. Given you will not be able to get what you need with money, how can you increase your chances of getting it through other means?
For me, at least, the easiest option is to join solidarity networks. Unionizing, sharing appliances, dumpster diving, learning trades and skills from each other, cooking communally to reduce waste and save time, squatting, etc.
And if you can’t afford to live given that, you’ll be far from the only one. So maybe join the others that are trying to change the system.
Yeah it would’ve been nice if we’d done a bit more to sow class consciousness back when we had a modicum of bargaining power for, oh, maybe two generations there, but better late than never.
And remember, as bad as we get it our fellow workers in the global south are getting it so, so much worse.
just watching humanity burn hard-earned resources on something arguably worse than arms race and dotcom/blockchain craze combined. Got to outlast it, in spite.
Got to outlast it, in spite.
Problem is not wanting your creations scraped.
Even worse when you want to contribute to some key project that likely won’t leave Github (issue being Copilot training). In my case it’s Godot bindings in my preferred (somewhat niche) language. I already contributed an example and have another better example I haven’t uploaded because of this (other issues though too, so I haven’t even been able to share an export).
Well at least with opensource, we can keep forking. Like Audacity project showed is possible, for example, through chaos to better product. I’m more concerned with physical resources though, those do not fork.
Github is not git, after all, and self-hosting some git server is kind of simple. Not doing it myself though, too many friends who do it already lol.
This isn’t really a ‘fork it’ type of problem. Closest to that I can viably do is just have my project elsewhere (gitlab or codeberg, or even just uploaded to itch) and allow the bindings project to link to it. Even then, it could still be scraped one way or another.
I don’t really understand enough to improve the bindings code itself and the project only currently has 4 other contributors (and those likely aren’t anywhere close to half-as-much as the creator), so the idea that moving would harm said project definitely is valid.
Godot itself is large enough that it could survive a move, though it’s likely too complicated with all existing things (unless they split out for ultra-future 5.X?). I do know that worse people (maybe-or-maybe-not better coders) have tried to fork Godot with the long-term outcome likely not being noteworthy.
Oh I’ve been on a similar journey, after a year long break I’m back in the education space and things have only gotten worse.
I voiced concern about professors using LLMs to create presentations. The sloppy images with nonsense text are one thing, but it’s hallucinating on actual content. Since I’m learning, I can’t be certain if something on this topic is true or an hallucination. My criticism was understood as me just not being tech savvy enough for AI.
I’ll probably drop the course and get my money back, I could get a chatgpt subscription for a lot less…
I’ve beefed up my legal insurance because I believe the only way to hammer some sense into people and businesses is to sue when their agentic ai makes mistakes. Currently nobody seems accountable for the output and that has to change.
This excerpt from a 47 year old IBM manual just keeps being increasingly relevant.
Are there a lot of managers who can be held accountable?
Yes. Every manager has responsibilities, because when shit goes south the meeting in the corner office wants to know who to blame, or even in less punitive cultures, where mistakes were made — where the opportunities to learn are. Corporations mask people from most personal criminal liability, but not all of it.
Allowing people to avoid responsibility by pinning it on a machine would be a big mistake.
Cathy O’Neil’s Weapons of Math Destruction is still a solid read on this stuff.
I’m also quitting or rather retiring this year. a couple years ago I pivoted from being a contract/consultant dev to doing consultation work to clean up AI slop that various companies produced.
I had hoped that eventually my clients would get it, would realize that utilizing LLMs for end to end builds and vibe coding your way to a final product didn’t work but…no…they aren’t getting it. They refuse to acknowledge it.
I’m tired. I’m tired of the same song and dance with every client “hey this app we made isn’t scaling and there’s a lot of issues with it, can you run a code review and tell is where we went wrong?” “sure you used AI to build this from end to end via a vibe coder who doesn’t know any of the languages the AI used. you need to start over with actual real devs” and nope. they just find another vibe coder that they feel can write better prompts.
So I’m quitting. I can’t do it anymore. I was hoping this bubble would have burst by now but the way, especially recently, companies are fighting tooth and nail to keep these shit producing agents going because they’re way too invested now is worrying. IF this bubble bursts it’s going to take EVERYONE with it. Everyone. so I’m getting out now and hope my money is still worth something when it does burst.
That’s a good article, thanks. The core beliefs they articulate at the end really resonate for me, but it was getting hard to convince people they were worthwhile even ten years ago, long before LLMs were infecting people’s minds.
- Things that are worth doing are worth doing well.
- Things that are done well require time and effort.
- You make meaning through the doing.
- Ideas are common; effort is not.
- There are no shortcuts.
I’m convinced that the way we use AI and the way it is marketed by corporations will force us to recognize the fundamental divide between people who genuinely care for human progress and building a better tomorrow and those who either don’t care at all or have a very warped and egocentric view of progress. I’m glad that what is described in this blog post hasn’t reached my day job yet, but I’d be lying if I said I’m not worried that it’s only a matter of time. It’s difficult to not feel extremely disillusioned by the current state of the world.
fired two months ago for bombing out of a PIP* and I feel so incredibly seen by this article. all my motivation and passion for making the linux and the kubernetes and the cloud things has evaporated and I have no fucking idea what to do next, thankfully I can also take some time off and I’m leaning into music as well, kinda in a cover band and likely joining another cover band.
*a PIP that my shithead of a former manager put me on the literal instant I returned to work from a double-whammy bereavement leave of first my grandpa dying, and then having to euthanize our beloved 12 year old dog. and the PIP’s core requirement turned out to be technically impossible anyways, and yet here I am
This one hit me hard. It described a lot of what I’ve been feeling myself lately.
Thanks for sharing this. I’m also quitting. I’m exhausted. My great pride has been rubbed from me. The morale code of this society has been turned upside down, and I do not wish to keep contributing.
I went to free gardening classes at the local library. I spent more time with friends. I am grateful that I have some savings to recover.
I feil this one. I had co-workers that used the office picture of another one to give it to chatgpt to change it to a specific style. I was feeling so weird about this… it’s hard to explain, like I was revulsed by this
Same. Been looking close to 9 months after being laid off but it’s only to pay the bills, I know I won’t enjoy what I find, if anything. That ship sailed 10 years ago.
