First comparing anything to the USA is a pretty low bar. Second when it comes to issues that affect health trending is great but it’s not as important as the current conditions when it comes to traveling to or living in a place. Our lives are too short to accept ‘trending’ for these kinds of issues.
The trend is what matters. China: electrification is going so fast it’s hard to follow. Pollution is going down very fast. The USA: cancel all plan to promote EVs and weaken regulation on gas cars: pollution is to go up. And that’s not including public transportation offset on the cars density, where China is basically 40 years ahead…
The cross-point on air quality might be much closer than you think.
Is it though? Have you been there or lived in a place with high smog and low air quality? Do you or your child have asthma? I made the comment simply as a note of the current condition - you sometimes literally can have a hard time seeing the city skyline in Beijing and I’ve never been to places like Hotan and other more industrial areas where it is worse.
Living or even visiting a place and saying it’s the trend that matters sounds like politician speak. Tell that to your lungs and brain while you sit in the pollution.
I lived in China for 6 years. I experienced smogs dense enough you couldn’t see a building 10m away.
I’ve been travelling to Shanghai on several occasions and went there again last year.
The improvement now vs 10years ago is dramatic! I’m not saying it’s all fine, but I will say this: now I live in Canada (Québec) and forest fires make the air here worse than what it is in Shanghai on a regular basis.
Also have cooler cars.
Way cooler. Their cities look way cooler too.
What you can see of them through the smog yeah.
They’ve outpaced the rest of the world combined for the last two years in renewable deployment.
True, I think what they have deployed the last 2 years could power the whole of Europe.
Still a brutal dictatorship though.
And have the smog levels outpaced the rest of the world? Have you been recently man? Making great progress yes, but they are starting from way behind.
Its been significantly improved vs where it was 10 and 20 years ago.
Agreed. But 80% better than awful is still pretty bad.
But unlike the US, its air quality is trending positive, not negative.
First comparing anything to the USA is a pretty low bar. Second when it comes to issues that affect health trending is great but it’s not as important as the current conditions when it comes to traveling to or living in a place. Our lives are too short to accept ‘trending’ for these kinds of issues.
The trend is what matters. China: electrification is going so fast it’s hard to follow. Pollution is going down very fast. The USA: cancel all plan to promote EVs and weaken regulation on gas cars: pollution is to go up. And that’s not including public transportation offset on the cars density, where China is basically 40 years ahead…
The cross-point on air quality might be much closer than you think.
Is it though? Have you been there or lived in a place with high smog and low air quality? Do you or your child have asthma? I made the comment simply as a note of the current condition - you sometimes literally can have a hard time seeing the city skyline in Beijing and I’ve never been to places like Hotan and other more industrial areas where it is worse.
Living or even visiting a place and saying it’s the trend that matters sounds like politician speak. Tell that to your lungs and brain while you sit in the pollution.
I lived in China for 6 years. I experienced smogs dense enough you couldn’t see a building 10m away.
I’ve been travelling to Shanghai on several occasions and went there again last year.
The improvement now vs 10years ago is dramatic! I’m not saying it’s all fine, but I will say this: now I live in Canada (Québec) and forest fires make the air here worse than what it is in Shanghai on a regular basis.
And a lot less fatasses.
This comment may seem diminutive but it has implications in terms of public health policies. I bet once again China has the upper hand here.