it’s hard. I love the Sandman. I won’t watch it going forward, knowing Gaiman’s violence. I have the entire collected series, doubt ever read 'em again.
this is life: we change our plans when faced with reality, every day. you can choose to ignore the bigotry, but I choose to find new things to consume.
The gringotts are straight up an antisemitic caricature. There’s plenty of biggotry hidden in there.
And it’s not “touched” by someone awful, it’s main creator is someone awful… Huge difference.
If the owner of a restaurant is a Nazi that’s a lot different than it having a Nazi bus boy.
You know who directly profits every time you spend any money on it? A biggot.
That’s the parent, not the child.
If you support the franchise in any way at all, you’re feeding the biggot’s empire.
That’s why we boycott things entirely.
If you pirated it, seeded zero bytes, watched it in a vacuum and never spoke of it again, then maybe you’d be morally neutral, but you’re not.
It’s like being vegetarian but wearing used leather shoes… You’re still acting hypocritically
it’s not enough that the potter fans want to have their fun; it’s not enough that they’re willing to ignore the hateful baggage and fund hate against their communities - I suspect there’s another aspect.
They’re upset we won’t shut up and come along. They genuinely resent that people have a line, have found a limit to what they’ll accept, because apparently they don’t have that line, that limit of what’s OK, and they resent people reminding them that they really should.
I haven’t ingested most of it, but before I knew what jkr was, I listened to some of it as a book on tape, and tried to watch the first movie…
And it’s fucking horrible. I really don’t get why anyone over 12 enjoys it…
Like, she can’t even come up with good words.
…
I could kinda understand enjoying an artist’s work and separating the art from the artist, if they were just biggoted but kept it most in their private life, but she an extremely vocal, extremely active biggot… It’s the only cause she seems to care about. Not worried about hunger or poverty, disease or war, she’s happy to scrooge around with her billion dollars… But she’s obsessed with hurting trans people.
Watching her shit funds that.
If it was a couple bad instances and she apologized for losing her temper, I wouldn’t exactly forgive her, but I’d understand people watching her garbage. Artists tend to have emotional problems and do things that aren’t really in their character…
But this is deeply in her core. She has defined herself as a champion of biggotry for years.
If you pirated it, seeded zero bytes, watched it in a vacuum…
You:.
We were discussing pirating it … Stay on track.
You’re such a narcissist you have to pretend like people who disagree with you don’t understand you? I codemn your actions. Not just disagree with them.
I also think you’re horrible at debate.
“I’ll just pretend like you didn’t understand me, ignore what you said mostly, and then just repeat my same toothless argument”.
“No ethical, legal consumption.” FTFY
so you pirate it - but why? why would you want to consume something you know was made by someone who is awful?
With this logic, why even turn on the TV?
it’s hard. I love the Sandman. I won’t watch it going forward, knowing Gaiman’s violence. I have the entire collected series, doubt ever read 'em again.
this is life: we change our plans when faced with reality, every day. you can choose to ignore the bigotry, but I choose to find new things to consume.
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The gringotts are straight up an antisemitic caricature. There’s plenty of biggotry hidden in there.
And it’s not “touched” by someone awful, it’s main creator is someone awful… Huge difference.
If the owner of a restaurant is a Nazi that’s a lot different than it having a Nazi bus boy.
You know who directly profits every time you spend any money on it? A biggot.
That’s the parent, not the child.
If you support the franchise in any way at all, you’re feeding the biggot’s empire.
That’s why we boycott things entirely.
If you pirated it, seeded zero bytes, watched it in a vacuum and never spoke of it again, then maybe you’d be morally neutral, but you’re not.
It’s like being vegetarian but wearing used leather shoes… You’re still acting hypocritically
well put
thanks :)
something that’s occurring to me this morning:
it’s not enough that the potter fans want to have their fun; it’s not enough that they’re willing to ignore the hateful baggage and fund hate against their communities - I suspect there’s another aspect.
They’re upset we won’t shut up and come along. They genuinely resent that people have a line, have found a limit to what they’ll accept, because apparently they don’t have that line, that limit of what’s OK, and they resent people reminding them that they really should.
God damn I hate Harry Potter fans
yeah their detachment from reality is getting kinda wild
I haven’t ingested most of it, but before I knew what jkr was, I listened to some of it as a book on tape, and tried to watch the first movie…
And it’s fucking horrible. I really don’t get why anyone over 12 enjoys it…
Like, she can’t even come up with good words.
…
I could kinda understand enjoying an artist’s work and separating the art from the artist, if they were just biggoted but kept it most in their private life, but she an extremely vocal, extremely active biggot… It’s the only cause she seems to care about. Not worried about hunger or poverty, disease or war, she’s happy to scrooge around with her billion dollars… But she’s obsessed with hurting trans people.
Watching her shit funds that.
If it was a couple bad instances and she apologized for losing her temper, I wouldn’t exactly forgive her, but I’d understand people watching her garbage. Artists tend to have emotional problems and do things that aren’t really in their character…
But this is deeply in her core. She has defined herself as a champion of biggotry for years.
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Me:
You:.
You’re such a narcissist you have to pretend like people who disagree with you don’t understand you? I codemn your actions. Not just disagree with them.
I also think you’re horrible at debate.
“I’ll just pretend like you didn’t understand me, ignore what you said mostly, and then just repeat my same toothless argument”.
Go back to reddit
You mentioned money before that. Why even bring it up first? As some kind of logical confetti to confuse the issue?
Disengage
You’re an idiot. A hypocritical idiot who supports fascist artwork.
Spamming me with name-calling? Really?
It’s just an accurate description, not a name
Two thoughts. The first and most egregious one is, “Because it is entertaining and I enjoy it.”
Probably the more palatable reason, however, is to be able to engage in discourse regarding the content of the media in relation to its creator(s).