For context I have audhd. I’ve always been confused about the association between stacking toys and autism. I don’t particularly remember stacking toys as a kid other than of course I did because I was a kid. Don’t lots of kids try to stack stuff as high as possible occasionally? Why is this seen as an autistic trait? Is it a stereotype due to the historical bias towards autistic boys with a particular presentation or something else? If it really is associated with autism and not a bias, why do autistic kids do it more?

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    Sorry, I didn’t mean to come across as hostile, that was not my intent.

    I am perhaps … just a bit sassy.

    I do fundamentally disagree with the premise, that simply stacking blocks is any kind of useful indicator of autism, but I don’t mean to… target, or attack you, personally.

    I mean to critique the idea.

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      No harm, I just got intimidated 🤗 I read your other comment too and obviously you have complex thoughts about this too. PsychoNot explained the whole “playing wrong” idea better than I did.

      Okay yeah then I actually agree with you. “Doing things wrong” is a terrible measuring stick for diagnosis. It’s just a stigma that’s been applied to people with autism.

      Super curious now: What’s your take on ABA? No wrong answers, I just like to hear people’s opinions because it’s a really split topic

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        ABA?

        First time I’ve ever even heard of it.

        From a cursory review uh… my thoughts… are…

        This basically sounds like torture/brainwashing/grooming to me.

        Waaay too intensive, especially with some weird person who isn’t your mom or dad.

        Also, all you apparently need to be a ‘certified’ ‘behavior technician’ in this is a high school diploma, and 40 hours of training.

        That’s a fucking joke.

        To even diagnose autism, properly, you need at least a Master’s degree, 6 years of higher education, more likely a PhD, 8.

        You’re gonna shunt off, long term, intensive session, ‘behavioral training’ to… an average American high school graduate, who reads at a 5th grade level, and took a month of weekend classes?

        This is quackery and abuse, which seems to be mainly pushed by Autism Speaks, an organization well known for not actually listening to autistic people, infantilizing them, and speaking for, over them.

        This just reads to me as ‘My Personality is Mom of Autistic Child’ people got together and attempted to formalize ‘mother knows best’.

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          Fair enough, thanks for your reply 👍

          Yeah it’s from a time back when our understanding of autism was way different but there’s still places that use it today. Unfortunately.

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            Oi. Yeah.

            Well, happy to talk with you 😊

            … I… I need breakfast now, too much thinking, not enough calories.