Although modern politics has changed things, rednecks have historically been anti authority and pro labor. Building a rural/urban alliance like Bill Clinton did would genuinely create an entirely new era of politics that would be friendly to liberal leftist ideologies.

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    2 days ago

    uhhhh racism? in the united states redneck is === racist asshole. the racism is a part of their identity… not sure how it escaped your entire question.

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      I really think it isn’t fair to generalize all rednecks as racist. I grew up in Kentucky and that definitely isn’t how it is.

      There’s 3 types of rednecks:

      • Not racist
      • Ignorant but welcoming (they may say something questionable, but only because they don’t know better and will apologize)
      • Racist.

      I think most I’ve met have been #1 or #2. If you ostracize a large portion of the population, of course they aren’t going to be on your side

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          that’s a very black and white view of things but real life isn’t so pretty.

          some people are intentionally misled or just not informed enough.

          you alienate people by assuming they’re racist when they’re often not. I mean, it’s a choice. but it’s not gonna win you an election and I don’t think it’ll move the US forward.

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            24 hours ago

            yes, just like religion being an inherent evil taught to impressionable children, so are many racist people they are led down that path blindly and ignorantly follow it til death. the brainwashed masses

            we actually fought an entire war over the concept… and the racists still try to pretend it wasnt racism, it was states rights to be racists

            its kinda like that old trope about nazis… you let a nazi sit at your table, there is now a table full of nazis. you can blow up all you want about ambiguity, but theres no ambiguity when you vote for racist or pedophile. none. zero.

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              17 hours ago

              I’m sorry, this is naive.

              You may have voted for a pedophile and you just don’t know it yet.

              People’s true colors are not always so readily apparent

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      Yeah, I grew up in Midwestern redneck culture and it’s not the union boys singing solidarity forever and shooting at Pinkertons in the mountains anymore.

      They all somehow equate being pro-labor as being pro-capital, like they’ve swallowed the Reagan coolaid so hard they completely switched ideologies.

      And they are how of the most horrid, hate filled people’s that exist. They hate for the sport of it.

      This is all based completely on my own biased experience, and hopefully is less true with Mango Mussolini betraying them more everyday, but to get to the heart of it as far as I can see ur an leftists are not allies with rural rednecks because the rednecks completely sold out their values for… nothing in return

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        Have you tried helping them reconnect with their roots? They either abandon that culture as “woke” and basically called me a witch or…

        they wake up. Its fascinating to see this one happen.

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      Yeah… the “rednecks” reserve real comradery for people ridiculously similar to themselves. They’ll befriend whoever they actually have to spend time with as “one of the good ones” but ultimately hold a position that’s deeply corrosive to diverse, leftist community