In a recent Guardian article about the Guthrie kidnapping (and probable murder) they indicated at the end of the article that efforts to identify the kidnappers had been stymied because her Ring camera subscription wasn’t active:

They had said that one roadblock in the ensuing search for Guthrie was the fact that somebody had disconnected her doorbell camera when she disappeared. And because she was not actively subscribed to the doorbell camera service provider, they could not immediately get images, they said.

Only for Patal (as of course he would seeing he has no comprehension of opsec) to expose the fact that the FBI able to obtain recordings from Ring cameras, even when the owner is unsubscribed to the cloud storage service they provide:

The FBI director, Kash Patel, published the images as the search for Nancy Guthrie, 84, stretched into its second week, saying the images had been “previously inaccessible” but were subsequently obtained from “residual data located in back-end systems”.

Pretty horrifying for those who don’t want their cameras reporting back. And yes yes i get that Ring has some pretty severe security breaches and problems and you shouldn’t be using them but the idea that video is being stored for over a week in Ring’s non-volatile storage systems, even when you’re not paying for it, is pretty damn bad,

Apologies if this fact, breach of privacy, was already known and in the public domain. This is something i’ve just learnt about.

  • ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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    18 hours ago

    Today’s world is so weird: online “services” are forced unto you even if you stop paying for them, and visiting kidnappers caught on camera look like ICE officers…

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      16 hours ago

      haha you can’t use them, because you don’t pay, but the government gets a free universal pass. Glorious. Just as the Founding Fathers would have intended.

      Anyone who willingly installs these things is part of the problem.

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        15 hours ago

        haha you can’t use them, because you don’t pay, but the government gets a free universal pass.

        Well, same for ICE: the fuzz is generally supposed to work for the good of the community, but ICE is working against it, yet you pay for it in your taxes.

        The camera too works against you, but through Amazon, not directly.

        Shit working against you is a theme these days…

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          The story generally sold is that the fuzz is supposed to work for the good of the community, but the fuzz has always been meant to legitimize the property of the ownership class with the state’s monopoly on violence.