• Aljernon@lemmy.today
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    4 hours ago

    is controversial among “leftists”

    I haven’t noticed any leftists who consider that idea controversial. Mostly just Liberals/Democrats

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      Many state communists oppose open borders. The USSR, China, and Cuba all had/have citizenship privileges and controlled migration, and generally people that support those governments are also called “leftist”.

      The same goes for many social democrats and socialist reformists. Even unionists often oppose migration because migrants are imported by the capitalist order to use as scabs (see “guest workers” in 1970s West Germany).

      All basically want a walled garden in which leftist ways of living can flourish, usually with the idea to export them later.

      But especially in activist and discourse spaces, people tend to be in a pretty narrow band from pop liberalism to anarchocommunism. Socialists, socdems, and unionists tend to be busy with their job, because that is what their praxis calls for. And state communists tend to walk away exasperated when people condemn genocide.

      But anarchocommunist praxis is for a large part prefigurative sharing of information, ideas, and tentative structures. So we’re relatively loud and as unemployed as we can get away with.

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        Many state communists oppose open borders. The USSR, China, and Cuba all had/have citizenship privileges and controlled migration,

        Fair enough, the USSR restricted movement within their territory more than many other countries restricted their borders.

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        Basically no one believes in open borders, only some weird fringe anarchists who posts memes like the one above that are largely irrelevant in the real world. It’s always just been a straw man from the right or just weird online fringe anarchists who hold the position.

        The reason communists are critical of the US/European hostility towards immigrants is not because we want open borders but because western countries bomb, sanction, coup these countries and cause a refugee crisis then turn around and cry about those immigrants coming to their country.