Shame is also important. Laugh at these people. Call them idiots and treat them like children when they start talking about politics. Shame is a great motivator and was a big part of my transition to anti-capitalism. Not joking.
Guilt helps people change. Shame gets them to more deeply entrench themselves into their current behaviors because they’re going to seek out ways to alleviate that shame through social connections that alleviate the pain of shame. The thing to understand is that guilt is a feeling of wrong doing, and shame is a feeling of lacking social value. When deprogramming someone from their previously held propagandized views, you have to give them an avenue to travel from their current position to where they are going. They need the opportunity to apologize and make amends. This is the process for atonement.
All that said, you also have to not give out too many chances. That just lets people continue to perpetuate their harm. If someone shows no sign of being willing to go through the atonement process you have to find ways to keep your community safe from the things that they do. How to do that is a discussion for another forum. Mostly in person discussions in mutual aid or community defense space, as this process is also context dependent.
Shame is also important. Laugh at these people. Call them idiots and treat them like children when they start talking about politics. Shame is a great motivator and was a big part of my transition to anti-capitalism. Not joking.
That’s close, but not quite correct
Guilt helps people change. Shame gets them to more deeply entrench themselves into their current behaviors because they’re going to seek out ways to alleviate that shame through social connections that alleviate the pain of shame. The thing to understand is that guilt is a feeling of wrong doing, and shame is a feeling of lacking social value. When deprogramming someone from their previously held propagandized views, you have to give them an avenue to travel from their current position to where they are going. They need the opportunity to apologize and make amends. This is the process for atonement.
All that said, you also have to not give out too many chances. That just lets people continue to perpetuate their harm. If someone shows no sign of being willing to go through the atonement process you have to find ways to keep your community safe from the things that they do. How to do that is a discussion for another forum. Mostly in person discussions in mutual aid or community defense space, as this process is also context dependent.
In my experience belittling and shaming disenfranchised people results in them harboring deeper resentment.
Obviously mileage varies. It worked for you, but not everyone is willing or able to do self crit in response to their beliefs being attacked.
Many times people need to come to the shameful realization themselves.