• ZWQbpkzl [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    17 hours ago

    What is the center right image? That doesn’t look like anything in the US.

    Also half of these are just bronze statues, if you want to talk about American Civil Religion you’ve gotta get the good shit.

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        16 hours ago

        But then how can I show my side is better?

        Well, the AmeriKKKans commit infinite genocides and the Koreans don’t, so on the slight chance that OP is Korean and the DPRK is actually “their side”, I don’t think they’ll have much trouble showing it’s better.

        It’s funny how posts calling out the hypocrisy of westerners with respect to the DPRK always get reactions like this, though.

        You can’t see Evilsandwichman’s response to ATS1312 because Evilsandwichman’s instance (Hexbear) doesn’t federate with yours, so I’ll quote it here.

        Quoted longer reply from [@Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net](https://hexbear.net/u/Evilsandwichman)

        Both CAN be true, but the leadership of one country is engaged in an existential struggle against a country that within living memory has killed 20% of its population (or at least according to Curtis LeMay) where people ended up being driven to live in caves because of the brutality of the bombings, destroyed every building and every bit of infrastructure, and the bloodline of this leadership had to rebuild the country under sanctions turning what would be a simple task for another country into one of titanic proportions, and the country that decimated them has never ceased hostile actions against them including even intimidation tactics from every war criminal that runs that warring country, and this leadership achieved nuclear weapons and THEORETICALLY shelved any chances of them being attacked or invaded again, while the other one is just vanity.

        Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery (mostly; the 13th amendment leaves space for some slavery that still exists today), but all these other statues are vanity projects for generic, placeholder people whose greatest mark on humanity is their war crimes. This second country has been at war with its population for decades and built a surveillance state bilaterally (BILATERALLY, meaning BOTH parties worked in unison on this) and are still worshipped; if you criticize party leadership for horrific crimes and don’t support them despite it, the other members of the cult will blame you for it rather than the candidate who could just…you know…stop. This government is historically of such a nature that it is literally the fact that you could say this country walked so the Nazi party could run, and then continued on such that the Nazi party ran so that this country can sprint.

        One of these two countries literally engaged in eugenics on their population and conducted science experiments on their disabled youths and pregnant population, and that’s within the last sixty to seventy years, and their population still worships them and are quick to say ‘let’s let bygones be bygones’ and not demand that everyone involved in these crimes face trial. The other country had all the power to do such and yet didn’t. Guess which country is which.

        Both CAN be true in the same sense that two cops wonder if they’re going to die today, where one cop is twerking in front of a cartel boss while flipping him off and calling his mother a toe sniffer and the other one is in bed with a book.

        Frankly, I think it’s perverse to even seriously compare the AmeriKKKan Civil Religion to any aspect of the culture of the DPRK (a country which was destroyed in the false name of the AmeriKKKan Civil Religion), but if you were to do so you are indeed correct that the DPRK would be better.

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      Both CAN be true, but the leadership of one country is engaged in an existential struggle against a country that within living memory has killed 20% of its population (or at least according to Curtis LeMay) where people ended up being driven to live in caves because of the brutality of the bombings, destroyed every building and every bit of infrastructure, and the bloodline of this leadership had to rebuild the country under sanctions turning what would be a simple task for another country into one of titanic proportions, and the country that decimated them has never ceased hostile actions against them including even intimidation tactics from every war criminal that runs that warring country, and this leadership achieved nuclear weapons and THEORETICALLY shelved any chances of them being attacked or invaded again, while the other one is just vanity.

      Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery (mostly; the 13th amendment leaves space for some slavery that still exists today), but all these other statues are vanity projects for generic, placeholder people whose greatest mark on humanity is their war crimes. This second country has been at war with its population for decades and built a surveillance state bilaterally (BILATERALLY, meaning BOTH parties worked in unison on this) and are still worshipped; if you criticize party leadership for horrific crimes and don’t support them despite it, the other members of the cult will blame you for it rather than the candidate who could just…you know…stop. This government is historically of such a nature that it is literally the fact that you could say this country walked so the Nazi party could run, and then continued on such that the Nazi party ran so that this country can sprint.

      One of these two countries literally engaged in eugenics on their population and conducted science experiments on their disabled youths and pregnant population, and that’s within the last sixty to seventy years, and their population still worships them and are quick to say ‘let’s let bygones be bygones’ and not demand that everyone involved in these crimes face trial. The other country had all the power to do such and yet didn’t. Guess which country is which.

      Both CAN be true in the same sense that two cops wonder if they’re going to die today, where one cop is twerking in front of a cartel boss while flipping him off and calling his mother a toe sniffer and the other one is in bed with a book.

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      17 hours ago

      Related term: secular Christianity and cultural Chrisianity… Especially popular in America.

      People identify as Christian, cling to the bible, cross, Jesus on the cross, religious symbology as totems or symbols which demonstrate they belong. But they don’t actually believe in God or what’s in the bible. It’s mainly virtue signaling or a dog whistle for white supremacy. In fact most of their core beliefs contradict many of the core tenents of Christianity.

      Given fascists delight in acting in bad faith, don’t actually believe half of what they claim to believe, it’s not surprising that the religious right are often fascists. They experience no discomfort, because they don’t actually believe in Christ’s teachings.