• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Oceania, Eurasia, Eastasia.

    Just gotta slighty redraw the line so that Airstrip One is properly part of Oceania.

    EDIT: Derp, somebody already made that comment, I need my glasses :X

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      Yup, Xi is looking to take advantage of Russia, and might just end up taking Siberia.

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    The orange could not get even that right - usa is taken by russia and russia is slowly taken over by china.

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      Sorry no :/ But I’m sure Erdogan would love to be included in the club.

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    This may have a lot of truth, except that US hold on Europe is absolute through political and media control. Every elected leader/party only understands US subservience, and will ensure that media remainst Atlantacist with Russophobia as the distraction for tyranny.

    Global south is a much bigger market than tying yourself to US collapse. In 2014, Germany simultaneously prepared Ukraine for war on Russia, with BS acceptance of Minsk accords as a delay tactic for war, while providing loan guarantees for nordstream 2. The level of suicidal devotion to US knows no bounds, and its doubtful there will be meaningful objections to giving Greenland to its master, even when the only purpose for US control is closer attack launches on Europe.

    Europe’s natural ally/trading partner is Russia. But it will take a revolution to break the fascist puppet tyranny over Europeans as the institutions and brainwashing are too strongly entrenched to perpetuate it towards collapse.

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        The critical thinking question is which is worse US vs Russia. In 2019, Europe seemed to have a brighter future than today, and the big difference was normal Russian relations. The collective EU failure is denying that Ukraine war was primarily a war on Europe by the US, creating this new Russophobia.

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            The US is currently under the control of a Russian asset called Krasnov.

            “Everything bad America does is because Russia is controlling it.”

            I’d accuse you of being a bot in turn, as a joke, but to be honest I think it says more that a lot of Americans really think this way.

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            Russia pursued peace for 8 years, and had very reasonable red lines to avoid the war. US categorically 100% forced the war with the arrogance that Russians would believe the propaganda given to Europeans that NATO is a defensive alliance, and Ukraine must remain nazified. No respect for Russian security was ever considered. Extreme failure of public sanity and awareness to side with US propaganda and subjugation of Europe instead of reality.

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              I salute your effort to push back on this stuff. I think you hit the nail on the head in your previous comment for why people never seem to do any basic kind of “maybe Russia also has real geopolitical considerations and is not simply populated by evil orcs” analysis. I’ll quote the part I think explains it below, emphasis added by me.

              The critical thinking question

              As you say, Europe had a brighter future when it had better relations with Russia. If the Europeans want to destroy their own industry and sink their economies by helping the US cut them off from Russian oil with this manufactured conflict, then I suppose no one else can stop them.

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      Technically, the meme says Trump thinks that.

      That said, LeftyMemes sidebar rule #2: recognize the capitalist nature of China. And when there is capitalism, imperialism soon follows.

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        Technically it doesnt say that trumo thinks that. But sure whatever make shit up.

        1. I was referring to the historical reality of china and how it hasnt tried to colonize or conquer another country for over a hundred years where as the usa and russia are actively doing that shit right now. But sure make some shit up and stick your head even farther up your ass
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          Technically it doesnt say that trumo thinks that. But sure whatever make shit up.

          It literally shows Trump holding up a map were he has scrawled things with his own pen. You’re the one making shit up.

          it hasnt tried to colonize or conquer another country for over a hundred years

          • 1950s–present: invasion and occupation of Tibet
          • 1950s–present: occupation and genocide in Xinjiang
          • 1962: land grab during the Sino-Indian War
          • 1979: Invasion of Vietnam
          • 1980s–present: jingoism in the South China Sea
          • 1997–present: steady dismantling of the promised autonomy of Hong Kong
          • Near future: Taiwan, likely.
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            Weirdly I got downvoted to hell for pointing this out on an .ml post

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            Trump holding up a sign isnt the same as it technically saying only trump thinks that.

            • sure china took out that pedophile theocracy 80 years ago
            • “Xinjiang became formally part of China when the Qing Dynasty established it as a province in 1884”
            • China withdrew from vietnam after a month. They attacked in reponse to vietnam attacking cambodia. If you think this is colonization or conquering your head is unrecoverable from your ass.
            • Jingoism in the south China sea also isnt conquering or colonizing. Feels like you just asked google for a list lmao
            • Taiwan is also china and I can not emphasize this enough… THIS HAS NOT FUCKING HAPPENED.
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              You slipped the word “only” there just now. That’s moving the goalposts.

              For the rest, you’re just presenting excuses.

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                Proles like you make me understand why the bourgeoisie see us as livestock. 🤢

                Youre meme doesnt say what you think it technically does. You cant seperate your intention from what you actually posted.

                Not excuses at all just what you listed isnt relevant. Its like me saying america just invaded LA or NYC.

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              Also the complaints about China’s education and job creation programs in Xinjiang were a response to CIA paid foreign terrorists in the name of Uyghurs. The genocide accusation is based on a handful of women going to the UK to declare they were sterile, after having 4+ kids.

              Understanding the evil the US/colonies do everywhere, and their politicized narratives, is a basic civic requirement for progress instead of parroting fascist domination over the world.

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                That’s a gross trivialization of the matter, that is basically genocide denial.

                The International Association of Genocide Scholars, whose resolution I cited, is an academic organization of scholars that engage in peer reviewed research. I believe it when it names the genocide in Gaza, I believe it when it names the genocide in Xinjiang.

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                  Categorically offensive and shameful. UK tribunal and US congress were overly political, based on interviews (heresay) where interviewees could have political or bribery motives. The accused crimes are pretty insignificant, and would permit political narratives that genocide is happening everywhere. But the core failure/flaw is accepting political propaganda for only basis of findings.

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        Not really. The trump/epstein files can finally topple the cheeto

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      Meh. Most Americans don’t care about their president being a paedo, certainly not his supporters. By now it’s been factored in.

      I think what they’re mainly trying to distract from is the bad economy, inflation and employment figures.

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      It sucks to say but it’s gotten to the point where, fuck it. We all know what he is, and roughly what he did. We also know proof won’t change anything, so fuck it. He has created somehow bigger problems to be addressed, mission accomplished I guess.

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      Ah yes, because the Angloid yankees are at the centre of the known universe and everything revolves around them; how revolting

      (If you are rage baiting, congrats, but please use a /s in the future)

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      Don’t forget Graydon Carter of Vanity Fair and the gold Sharpie.

      To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him — generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby.

      (I think this photo is actually a reconstruction by BBC Newsbeat rather than a Short-Fingered Vulgarian original, but still).

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    Absolutely crazy to think Trump isn’t aggressively contesting the entire Pacific Rim, North Africa, and Eastern Europe. FFS, how many times does he need to bomb Iran or Yemen before this shit is settled? How many times does need to send Steves Banon and Miller out to Germany, Poland, and Hungary to whip support within the fascist parties? How come the common denominator between every banana republic fascist in Latin America is their Austro-Hungarian parentage and their avowed support for Israel?

    Might be closer to say he’s ceding the African/East Asian Global South to the Israelis/Saudis/Qataris/UAE. But even that gives him far too much credit.

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      He’s not ceding Africa. Don’t forget they recently conducted air strikes in Nigeria.

      In fact, Trump mentioned the weather preventing them capturing Maduro a few days ago, that would have been the 1st. The strikes in Nigeria were on the 25th.

      I think the plan was to bomb somewhere on both Christmas and New Year’s day.

      Maybe Trump didn’t want Santa or Jesus getting all the attention. I’m joking, but given the man’s utterly deranged, it’s not entirely implausible.