There were similar headlines about Americans at the time… and currently… does that make America a nazi country?
Nuance is dead, I guess. Idiots.
Easiest “yes” I’ve ever yessed
You are dumb.
Did you bother reading any of the headlines before you started spinning or do you want to tell everyone what nazi the US has designated a national holiday for?
Either way the answer is yes the US is a nazi country
Ukraine’s democratically elected leader is Jewish, moron.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
The Association of German National Jews (German: Verband nationaldeutscher Juden, VnJ) was an assimilationist and nationalist German Jewish organization which was formed during the early years of the rule of the Weimar Republic and during the early years of the rule of Nazi Germany, that eventually came out in support of Adolf Hitler.
Waiting for the wave of angry libs accusing the Atlantic Council, Politico, the BBC and Freedom House of “Russian propaganda”
Those headlines arent, but this post is. Do headlines about far right Americans make the US a country of nazis, or would that be fucking ridiculous?
How about having government sponsored Nazi youth boot camps[1], large neo-nazi gatherings honoring nazi war criminals without consequences[2], the military, both regular and militias, harboring nazi simbology[3], building monuments and exhibitions honouring nazi war criminals and denying their war crimes[4], Zelensky participating in a standing ovation to a Waffen SS veterent[5]? Does that scream Nazi loud enough for you?
‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video ↩︎
Torchlight parade in Kyiv honors Nazi-linked nationalist, 1000 in Torchlight March in Kiev Honoring Nazi Collaborator, Torchlight parade in Kyiv honours Nazi-linked nationalist ↩︎
Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History, How Nazi Collaborators Are Celebrated in Wartime Ukraine - New Glo ↩︎
Nazi collaborator monuments around the world - The Forward, How Nazi Collaborators Are Celebrated in Wartime Ukraine - New Glo ↩︎
How Nazi Collaborators Are Celebrated in Wartime Ukraine - New Glo, Trudeau and Zelensky give Ukrainian Nazi war veteran standing ovation in Canadian parliament, Canada House speaker apologizes for recognition of veteran who fought for Nazis ↩︎
Their elected leader is Jewish, dummy.
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Go ahead and link the sources that show I’m wrong that I didn’t pick then. Surely you better rebuttals than “ZeLeNsKy Is LiTeRaLly JeWiSh” right? Because if not, I’m afraid you would be the one doing cherry picking here.
Their leader is a democratically elected Jew, stupid.
So you don’t, as I suspected. Just to clarify since clearly you aren’t even going to pretend you checked the link I gave you, what I linked was the wikipedia article about Jews who collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. All this to say, yes, you can be Jewish and a Nazi. These things aren’t as mutually exclusive as you peoples like to pretend they are, and the fact that you ignore all the examples of Jews who were Nazis is arguably, again, the very cherry picking you accused me of.
Meanwhile you have yet to provide the data that I supposedly omitted according to you.
So if a country has far right parties and groups you invade the country and bomb civilian and critical infrastructure. That is collective punishment and should never be used.
So its chill to put far right parties that integrate fascist militias into their military into power and knowingly use the country as a proxy in order to maximize profits for the military industrial complex? And then get upset that another regional power that has been voicing their concern for two decades decides to do intervene militarily? That is imperialist and should never have happened in the first place.
If that was intervention to ‘free Donbas’ it would stop at Donbas and would not include city and civilian infrastructure bombing, would it now?
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<proceeds to literally ignore all the articles visible in the image itself>
Forgot to add the word reliable… I am on mobile sorry… Also why should I zoom into fake news?
They’re major western media outlets dumbass
In a time of ai, every picture can be a fake dumbass :P
One Person was so Kind and already posted the links.
And yeah posting pic a without sources has some serious “covid isn’t real, look at all these reliable pictures I have” dumbass ;)
Edit: if you take your time to offend some strangers on the internet while you try to prove your point, you should be better prepared than that.
You do know you can simply type the headlines in google to know if they’re real right?
Ah yes, AI from before when AI existed. You are so very intelligent.
Cope
https://lemmy.ml/comment/23035625
Good example to show people the right way why and how they are wrong ;)
disgusting entitlement towards being treated with good faith while being a scumbag piece of shit bad faith troll themselves
;)
should catch a ban
You’re welcome!
Lol there it is, if I don’t like the source it must be ai. The final frontier in denying what’s right in front of your face
I didn’t said I dont like it. I said that if you shoe me a stupid collab picture, give me clear sources. Being sceptical is healthy . Getting facts like this comment shows is also a better way.
https://lemmy.ml/comment/23035625
Backs up their claims, showing me that the images are not some random Photoshop / ai bullshit.
Or did you forgot all the assholes out there who said “covid isn’t real” and just showed some stupid images which they stated as a a fact?
Politico, the Atlantic Councill, BBC, etc are shown. Articles for some of these and others linked here.
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Fashlib trolling from lemmy.world?!? Say it ain’t so!
Western media and observable reality are now Russian propaganda
Lol its so clear that “Russian propaganda” just means “something i don’t like” to you people.
Gimme one reliable source of the pic above… I never saw any “Ukraine + nazis = friends” shit outside of russian propaganda media.
Politico, the Atlantic Council, BBC, Haaretz, etc are shown.
From davel’s compilation, again:
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Consortium News, 2022: Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
- History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
Groups like Azov have been folded in officially. The Kiev regime upholds Stepan Bandera and uses likeness for propaganda. Nazis infest Ukrainian leadership:
The east supported Yanukovych, and that’s why the far-right Banderites couping him kicked off the war.
Wait so Ukraine is bad too? Is one worse than the other??? What am I meant to think anymore??? Politics makes me feel like a Ping Pong Ball I hate it.
If you try to analyze politics in moral framing like “good vs evil,” then you’ll always be caught off guard. The people of Ukraine are largely not representative of the Banderite regime, in fact there are many deserters. There are citizens that uphold the Banderites, but it’s not an overwhelming number like 80-90%. Generally, Marxists tend to critically support the Russian Federation over Kiev due to protecting the people of Donetsk and Luhansk, and because Kiev is being wielded like a hammer against Russia by the west in order to weaken both into opening up their markets for foreign plunder (like in the 90s).
Gonna check that out later. Thanks for the links and material :)
If you want to find more just use Google advances search for “Ukraine far right” and use a time filter to show results pre 2022
Thank you too mate. thats a good way to help somebody to find his mistakes in his errors / wrong thoughts :)
No problem!
Zoom in the the pic lol. Atlantic Council, politico, freedom house…all totally Russian outlets
Fuckin lazy
I think we both misunderstand each other, because your previous comment read like “If people dont like it, it has to be Russian propaganda” and I understood it the way that you meant it is not Russian propaganda.
Also I am on mobile and why should I take the time to read that shit? Whenever I see “Ukraine = nazis” its clear To me that its Propaganda shit.
Yeah i am lazy to proof people that they post bullshit online… Relevant xkcd
“I don’t want to believe it, therefore its propaganda bullshit”
Jackoff motion
Not believing and having a discussion about misunderstanding are two different things ;)
Like I already said, you dont get what I am trying to say and I am okay with that, cause english is not my main language and there is no need to discuss with somebody who just use some phrases instead of trying to get on the same page to understand each other.
Take this comment for example: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23035625
This one is a good example for a good discussion and showing somebody where they went wrong. I mean I still can’t believe it, but i cannot deny facts if they are shown of properly.
If it’s sources you want then ho boy do I have a bunch for you to check out:
Nazis in Ukraine
Ukraine’s Nazi problem is real, even if Putin’s ‘denazification’ claim isn’t Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem Torchlight parade in Kyiv honors Nazi-linked nationalist 1000 in Torchlight March in Kiev Honoring Nazi Collaborator Torchlight parade in Kyiv honours Nazi-linked nationalist Trudeau and Zelensky give Ukrainian Nazi war veteran standing ovation in Canadian parliament Canada House speaker apologizes for recognition of veteran who fought for Nazis Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’ Canadian Parliament gives WWII Nazi standing ovation | Al Jazeera Newsfeed [[Archived - Teacher in Kiev “When the break bell rings, the children here speak Russian”]] Hawkish Pundits Downplay Threat of War, Ukraine’s Neofascist Ties Nazi collaborator monuments around the world - The Forward How Nazi Collaborators Are Celebrated in Wartime Ukraine - New Glo
The US-backed Maidan coup and US & Ukraine-supported fascist paramilitary attacks on eastern & southern Ukraine:
Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine
Internationalist 360°, 2022–2024: History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
