I’ve run into some terminally online-dumb shit. Look at my account age and post count for how strong a claim I’m making here:
I’m less terminally online brain poisoned and social media brain rotted than 95% of the people I find in left spaces in California. It’s wild.
It’s not even about real ideology sometimes. I recommended an essay about why being a cop is bullshit by George Orwell and got iced out of a mutual aid project for ‘liking problematic authors’, and that’s not even the dumbest one. I’ve been called ableist about a disability I have for saying reading theory has value.
There are real problems in organizing, and I too have seen things like you’re describing. I just try not to take part in such petty squabbles. If a group is too wound up with internal politics to get anything done, I just find somewhere else to put my energy.
Yeah. It means I work without other organizers most of the time, bringing people up from total disempowerment. Need to move on pretty often to avoid… excessive regard.
i’m in the same position as you. i’m trying (or rather i tried) to be active in a number of activist groups where i live but most of them are too busy with petty infighting to actually improve anything. that’s why i’m so active on lemmy now, because here i feel like i can actually get things done by talking to people, having interesting discussions, learning and teaching stuff.
The revolution is not posting. Go outside. Share a pack of beer or regional hot beverage with a few unhoused people on the sidewalk and chat, vandalize some cameras, build a shadow library operating on secret rootkitted daemons on government servers, grab a machete and hunt fascists like you’re something out of a particularly based Asian noir film; whatever your contribution is: do your fucking part.
Do what you like is my point. Posting just isn’t the revolution.
It’s not great education either! The overwhelming majority here is either too defensive or bad faith, so every discussion is incredibly basic surface pithy and conforming. you get surface bullshit with no depth or background. Long form content-whether that’s long private discussions with educated people or a fucking book-has advantages.
It’s not even always a MLM/anarchist split.
I’ve run into some terminally online-dumb shit. Look at my account age and post count for how strong a claim I’m making here:
I’m less terminally online brain poisoned and social media brain rotted than 95% of the people I find in left spaces in California. It’s wild.
It’s not even about real ideology sometimes. I recommended an essay about why being a cop is bullshit by George Orwell and got iced out of a mutual aid project for ‘liking problematic authors’, and that’s not even the dumbest one. I’ve been called ableist about a disability I have for saying reading theory has value.
3.2k over 2 months is numbers I generally attribute to bots/shills. Is that a normal level of online in your spaces?
No, that’s what I’m saying. I am buried in and embalmed with grass compared to most people I’ve met.
There are real problems in organizing, and I too have seen things like you’re describing. I just try not to take part in such petty squabbles. If a group is too wound up with internal politics to get anything done, I just find somewhere else to put my energy.
Yeah. It means I work without other organizers most of the time, bringing people up from total disempowerment. Need to move on pretty often to avoid… excessive regard.
i’m in the same position as you. i’m trying (or rather i tried) to be active in a number of activist groups where i live but most of them are too busy with petty infighting to actually improve anything. that’s why i’m so active on lemmy now, because here i feel like i can actually get things done by talking to people, having interesting discussions, learning and teaching stuff.
The revolution is not posting. Go outside. Share a pack of beer or regional hot beverage with a few unhoused people on the sidewalk and chat, vandalize some cameras, build a shadow library operating on secret rootkitted daemons on government servers, grab a machete and hunt fascists like you’re something out of a particularly based Asian noir film; whatever your contribution is: do your fucking part.
Also read theory.
education is the most important element of progress, and discussion is literally the most effective tool for that.
also don’t tell me what to do, i don’t like that, thank you.
Do what you like is my point. Posting just isn’t the revolution.
It’s not great education either! The overwhelming majority here is either too defensive or bad faith, so every discussion is incredibly basic surface pithy and conforming. you get surface bullshit with no depth or background. Long form content-whether that’s long private discussions with educated people or a fucking book-has advantages.
Posting is a vice, and only a vice.
posting/commenting is what we make of it. :-)
So is heroin.
Keep doing what you’re doing ✊
It’s not the easiest way to do things, or the most rewarding. I fail a lot.