Embark’s Art Director Robert Sammelin has said in the past about matchmaking: “It’s quite complex, so we do analyze behavior and match accordingly.”
And then one YouTuber’s anecdotal experience. Wow, sounds conclusive.
Bullshit.
I am an entirely passive player. I don’t start PvP, I don’t participate in it unless someone starts shooting at me.
Yet I am constantly being shot at. In about 80% of matches I get attacked, typically from people extraction camping. It is enough that I have moved to other games because I can’t make much progress losing everything in most matches.
Yep, I find it extremely hard to believe they could identify “jerks” programmatically with any accuracy.
puts you in lobbies with gamers who have a similar playstyle to you.
Grading players by “similar playstyle” is something we’ve had for at least a decade. This doesn’t seem different.
I find it extremely hard to believe they could identify “jerks” programmatically with any accuracy.
Would be fairly easy, really. Which player opened fire first? Which player said “don’t shoot” just before shooting?
Same here. Never even shot back. Only played a few matches but it’s simply not enjoyable and I didn’t come back to it.
Perhaps the match making didn’t know who to bracket you in with if you’ve only played a few games
It should read their mind!
Console or PC? I’m on PC and my experience is totally different, I can go a whole night without a gunfight.
There was that test the two dudes conducted where they concluded they got shot at way more when playing with console players.
Same here. I play strictly solo and it feels like about 70% or more of my encounters are with friendly people. Occasionally, people stab in the back or I get shot and killed on sight, then next game do the latter to someone else to mentally make up for the losses, but that’s not too common.
Solo or in a squad? Playing solo I have probably been shot at maybe 20 times in 70 hours of play and have never experienced an extraction camper.
When in a squad that is very different as pretty much everyone we have met has shot at us straight away but we have still met with very few extraction campers.
Obviously everyone has different experiences in games, that is inevitable, but playing solo for me has been mostly chill as fuck. Especially coming from fucking Tarkov.
Same. I quit after just a few days. It’s incredibly demotivating.
I’ve been humming and hawing over if I should get this game.
My assumption was that people would play friendly or cooperate more in the early days, and then straight PVP would take over quickly. Is this the case?
The reason I assume this would happen is that there’s very little incentive to take the risk to cooperate when you could end up getting shot in the back and have your loot stolen.
The game sounds like if you were to try and min max, your best option would be to manipulate others to take advantage of any good will. Eventually, people would stop working together and just go straight to PVP as cooperative play would become too much of a risk or a waste of time.
Edit: I also don’t know how to incentivize people to play with a variety of playstyles. If they want cooperation and spontaneity to be a feature in the game, I feel like they would need to have some kind of incentive to make people play in a variety of playstyles. Otherwise, people might just completely gravitate to straight pvp.
Again I could be completely off the mark as I haven’t actually played the game, just watched others play it
I noticed this a while back, everyone was always friendly until this random guy started shooting at me, me and someone next to me doing the same quest ended up taking him down when he came down off the control tower, and I finished him off. After that the next several rounds were always shoot on site
I noticed the same thing when I started doing only loot runs (I didn’t shoot anyone, I’d just loot and GTFO). It used to be that running into PvP was pretty much expected but eventually the loot run matches went so that other players would sit in the open looting and nobody shot them, which is something you wouldn’t do if you were in a lobby expecting to get shot. I wasn’t willing to go as far as to assert that’s the matchmaking algorithm but my matches have definitely become more peaceful as I’ve stopped picking fights with other players.
It worked really well for CSGO at least for me. I had a lot of nice lobbies
