Imma be real:
If someone tries to tell me, that Stalin’s purges were totally justified, they’re a tankie. If someone tells me that only “bad people” have suffered under regimes trying to achieve communism, they’re a tankie.
If someone tells me that I must support Iran or Russia because they are not the US, they might be a tankie.
I use tankie the same way. Authoritarians and genocide deniers. It’s a fairly common way to use the word by leftists. Libs and tankies muddying the definition sucks, but how else am I supposed to refer to tankies?
Edit: Also let’s be honest. Tankies call everyone who calls them out a liberal whether it’s warranted or not.
If you demonize previous (even if flawed) socialist experiments (e.g. for being successful and not perfect), then you are a revisionist, if not outright a liberal
I would interpret “demonizing” something as meaning misrepresenting it in a hyperbolically negative manner that may even involve completely constructed criticism.
I don’t think that highlighting authoritarianism in past social experiments constitutes demonising them. You’re right that there were significant successes in these projects, and also that they weren’t perfect. If we don’t properly acknowledge the ways in which they went wrong, can we really hope to do better in the future?
I don’t see any way in which the people you’re replying to are being at all revisionist.
That is by far not a universal definition anymore and not at all how it is used on the internet by a lot of people 😑
E.g.: Liberals often use it to refer to anyone revolutionary, from anarchists to Maoists…
It’s a loaded and really unclear term nowadays and could even be interpreted as whistleblowing
Edit: Hence my question, because this could have been a rule 1 deletion and/or a temp ban e.g.
Imma be real: If someone tries to tell me, that Stalin’s purges were totally justified, they’re a tankie. If someone tells me that only “bad people” have suffered under regimes trying to achieve communism, they’re a tankie. If someone tells me that I must support Iran or Russia because they are not the US, they might be a tankie.
I use tankie the same way. Authoritarians and genocide deniers. It’s a fairly common way to use the word by leftists. Libs and tankies muddying the definition sucks, but how else am I supposed to refer to tankies?
Edit: Also let’s be honest. Tankies call everyone who calls them out a liberal whether it’s warranted or not.
If you demonize previous (even if flawed) socialist experiments (e.g. for being successful and not perfect), then you are a revisionist, if not outright a liberal
I would interpret “demonizing” something as meaning misrepresenting it in a hyperbolically negative manner that may even involve completely constructed criticism.
I don’t think that highlighting authoritarianism in past social experiments constitutes demonising them. You’re right that there were significant successes in these projects, and also that they weren’t perfect. If we don’t properly acknowledge the ways in which they went wrong, can we really hope to do better in the future?
I don’t see any way in which the people you’re replying to are being at all revisionist.
What counts as demonization for you?
I have often seen people say this but I’ve never seen an actual example of someone misusing the term tankie.
Then I’m glad you got spared the headaches
Fair, fair.
I’ve used this definition many times on Lemmy/PieFed so far, it’s my genuine meaning of the word.