• dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
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    Yeah, the guy that lead the most successful iteration of communism isnt a real communist. Only people debating on the internet are true communists.

    Your criteria for communism is essentially “if they did bad things, then it wasn’t real communism”. Leftists can learn a lot from The Soviet Union, mistakes and all. Dismissing entire nations that actually tried communism because you’re scared you’ll have to justify everything they did is silly.

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      6 hours ago

      Can a nation be considered to have achieved communism when it still has a hierarchy?

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        Communism in the Marxist sense isn’t about abolishing hierarchies. When they say they want a stateless society, there will still be oppression but executed by workers which is much besser. Source: read Das Kapital or something. I’m not a Marxist, what do I know

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        5 hours ago

        The final goal of communism is a worldwide, stateless, classless, moneyless society.

        This has obviously never been achieved, but the socialist and communist factions that use Marxism Leninism to work toward this goal are still nonetheless communist.

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        Communists are not people that practice communism (not possible yet), they are people trying to achieve communism as an end goal.