As per fsf only those linux distributions are 100% free:

Dragora
Dyne
Guix
Hyperbola
Parabola
PureOS
Trisquel
Ututo
libreCMC
ProteanOS

Do you agree or no?

I see a lot of people that want to switch from windows to a linux distro or a open os. But from what i see they tend to migrate to another black boxed/closed os.

What is a trully free os that doesnt included any closed code/binary blobs/closed drivers etc.

Just 100% free open code, no traps.

What are the options and what should one go with if they want fully free os that rejects any closed code?

  • pie@piefed.socialOPEnglish
    16·
    6 hours ago

    kernel is not free
    it ships with blobs/proprietary crap etc
    if it was free gnu-linux libre wouldnt have existed

    • non_burglar@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 hours ago

      The kernel itself does not contain blobs, firmware or microcode. That is loaded after boot if you’ve chosen to do so.

      • pie@piefed.socialOPEnglish
        1·
        3 hours ago

        lol i’m sure the average joe who switches from windows to you name what linux distro does this by himself and not the os doing it for him wtf

        • vapeloki@lemmy.world
          1·
          36 minutes ago

          So, you have an open system with coreboot, and do not use firmware?

          You don’t load the microcode patches that makes you CPU safe?

          You know that then you should not use any browser with JS or WASM engine? just asking because those exploits are still being used …

        • non_burglar@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 hours ago

          I’m responding to this:

          kernel is not free it ships with blobs/proprietary crap etc

          That is not true.

          lol i’m sure the average joe who switches from windows to you name what linux distro does this by himself

          Neither are you. And what that has to do with windows users is beyond me.

          If you want gnu/herd, you’re free to install and use it. You will have no:

          • MP3 playback
          • use for wine (wine is Foss, but almost no windows executables are)
          • practically no WiFi
          • no discord
          • no zoom
          • no widevine
          • no ms teams working properly

          Drawing a hard line in the sand about FOSS is possible, but you must give up many modern conveniences.

      • pie@piefed.socialOPEnglish
        11·
        3 hours ago

        Explain then why gnu-linux libre kernel exists if linux kernel is totally free?

        • vapeloki@lemmy.world
          41·
          3 hours ago

          I don’t know, they seem to scrub everything related to firmware loading and more. A whole while ago, the kernel contained blobs. Those are moved to the Linux firmware project and no longer part of the kernel l.

          So, you are the one here claiming stuff. Proof it. Where is the firmware in the kernel tree?

            • vapeloki@lemmy.world
              1·
              40 minutes ago

              You claimed there are binary firmware blobs in the Kernel tree. And the kernel is not free. That is your claim. Proof it!

              I am building my kernel from sources. I am writing Kernel modules. I damn well know what in the kernel is.

              So, come on. If this such a critical issue that you will for sure have no issues to proof it.

    • anon5621@lemmy.ml
      11·
      5 hours ago

      Have ever tried to learn what exactly their scrips doing of their project please do ,the most worst part they hidding bummer that u are running not secure microcode .I like ideas behind fsf but their paradigm and what they trying to do is useless and not effective anymore we need something new with same ideas