“It’s safe to say that the people who volunteered to “shape” the initiative want it dead and buried. Of the 52 responses at the time of writing, all rejected the idea and asked Mozilla to stop shoving AI features into Firefox.”

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    2 days ago

    So much wtf. Please name one way I use AI without knowing it, and ways that enrage me don’t count.

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      2 days ago

      Well, then give me a report of everything you use IT for… You phone, apps, tablets, computers, smart tv’s and so forth?

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        Um, nah… ? I actively avoid half those things and yet use computers constantly. The burden would be on you. So perhaps you can actually give examples that would be true of a lot of people. I feel like you think lemmy users are like most people and just along with what’s popular, but that’s not the case, particularly with computing concerns.

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          Damn you are not really well, are you? You want me to tell you exactly where you use build in “AI” that helps you make decisions, but you won’t tell me what you use?!? I don’t have to prove anything. My claim stands. I can see that you are using some kind of computer, and the internet. You are using algorithms that act the way AI does… But I guess you are too blind to see… That’s on you. Keep living in your little illusion of a world. 🙃

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            Damn you are not really well, are you?

            Says the person who wants a full inventory of my computing hardware. What a fucking bizarre human.

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              Well, you wanted me to tell you what AI-like algorithms you were using - and you expect me to do that from no information? You really are not well…

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          See my reply to the sibling comment - I wasn’t referring to the “AI summary”.

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        Nope. The “AI summary” is something I disable on Google and I try to actively avoid it because it enrages me. It’s total dogshit.

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          The algorithms to determine which pages are most relevant to your query are traditionally seen as AI too. They’re just not labelled as such (which was the point), and predate the current AI hype.

          I hadn’t even thought about the “AI modes” that search engines are incorporating nowadays though, so I get the confusion.

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            That’s a fair point. But search algorithms fall under the “recommender system” umbrella, which are a very different family from the agentic AI we’re discussing here.

            Both are AIs, but with very different use cases. In the same way, you could technically classify both your gaming PC and phone as computers, and you’d be correct.

            Edit: links

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              It was my impression that the thread started wasn’t just talking about agentic AI. And I think a lot of the “anti AI folks” here are also angry about recent non-agentic AI additions that Mozilla added, such as e.g. tab recommendations for tab groups.

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                The post is about the new AI Window feature, and here’s its description from Mozilla’s own announcement:

                Now, we’re excited to invite you to help shape the work on our next innovation: an AI Window. It’s a new, intelligent and user-controlled space we’re building in Firefox that lets you chat with an AI assistant and get help while you browse, all on your terms. Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off.

                So, definitely agentic.

                And I think a lot of the “anti AI folks” here are also angry about recent non-agentic AI additions that Mozilla added, such as e.g. tab recommendations for tab groups.

                I’ll speak honestly: I’m not happy with that either. But that’s incidental to this topic. The agentic component is my biggest concern.

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                  Hmm could be different commenting styles; I, and I think the thread started as well, regularly broaden a topic in response to an article. So my interpretation when they spoke about people having “AI as a trigger word” was that they were referring to people with concerns about more than just agentic AI. But if you want to limit it to that, feel free to ignore my original reference to search engines.