I’ve been trying Lemmy for a little while and wasn’t sure how to feel about it.

Today, I wanted to start blocking the most high-censorship instances until I could find a fully zero-censorship instance and simply block all the ones with censorship. Filter bots, not people.

When I looked into it further, I found out there are no zero-censorship instances, because Lemmy relies on a broken “federation” system where each instance is supposed to be able to fetch posts from other instances, but it’s never been finished to reach a fully working state. Lemmy’s official docs say you can’t even do federation over Tor at all. This means it uses DNS, so it won’t actually allow Lemmy instances to fetch posts from each other freely, it just gets blocked instantly and easily, every time the authorities feel like blocking anything.

So you can only ever have the “average joe lemmy” and “average joe reddit” with everything approved by the authorities, and then “tor copies of lemmy” and “tor copies of reddit” where you have free speech but you can only reach other nerds.

People seem to think Lemmy is different because this weird censorship fetish is extremely popular and most of you are happy to see bans happen to certain people, not just bots, so a small Lemmy that censors certain people feels fundamentally different from a big reddit that censors more people. But it’s the exact same thing, it’s reddit.

When reddit was smaller, you could say basically anything you wanted there, they just wouldn’t let it reach the main audience. Then it got too big, and any tiny part of the audience you could reach would be too big, so they won’t let you talk at all.

Lemmy is now the small part of reddit where you can say whatever you want, separated from the main audience, until too much growth happens and you have to move again.

It’s not actually a solution to reddit. It’s not designed to be different, it’s designed to match the past today and then match reddit’s present tomorrow, while being part of a system that’s about the same in past, present, and future.

Last year, this year, and next year, you’re posting somewhere it won’t be seen by many people, and the system that charges people for ambulance rides is getting another year of ambulance ride revenue, facing no organized resistance. There’s no difference here.

Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.

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    I’m not holding you captive, making you respond. That it upsets you so much is an entirely self-inflicted problem.

    Incorrect. You brought up the topic they were a subtopic in. Why do you keep repeating the same lies? Is there a reason other than that you’re deeply mentally ill?

    Here’s you first mentioning them.

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      I’m not holding you captive, making you respond.

      I didn’t ask if you were. Why waste time typing that?

      That it upsets you so much is an entirely self-inflicted problem.

      I don’t understand. How much do you mean? What problem? Whose self?

      Here’s you first mentioning them.

      First mentioning what, and why are you giving me a link to my own post?

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        I didn’t ask if you were. Why waste time typing that?

        I didn’t ask if you asked. Why waste time typing that?

        I don’t understand. How much do you mean? What problem? Whose self?

        You keep crying about me abusing you.

        First mentioning what, and why are you giving me a link to my own post?

        You can’t be serious. You really can’t be serious. You can’t trace back 1 post to see what I was referring to there in the source?

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          I didn’t ask if you asked. Why waste time typing that?

          It wasn’t a waste of time, my words matter.

          You keep crying about me abusing you.

          Incorrect. Perhaps you have “crying” confused with “replying.”

          You can’t be serious.

          I think I’m kinda good at being serious, actually.

          You really can’t be serious.

          Repeating it doesn’t make me agree.

          You can’t trace back 1 post to see what I was referring to there in the source?

          What do you mean?

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            It wasn’t a waste of time, my words matter.

            Didn’t ask. Why waste time?

            Incorrect. Perhaps you have “crying” confused with “replying.”

            Are you of the opinion that when I said “crying” there I literally thought you were in tears at your keyboard?

            What do you mean?

            You mentioned Hamas.ps first. The timeline shows this. Here is the link. You genuinely forgot that was what I posted to you?

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              Didn’t ask.

              Didn’t ask if you asked.

              Why waste time?

              You tell me, you’re the one that keeps doing it.

              Are you of the opinion that when I said “crying” there I literally thought you were in tears at your keyboard?

              Nope. Are you still pretending my straightforwardness makes it hard to believe I can understand euphemisms? (Rhetorical question, obviously you are)

              You mentioned Hamas.ps first. The timeline shows this. Here is the link.

              Is there a point here?

              You genuinely forgot that was what I posted to you?

              Forgot what?

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                Nope. Are you still pretending my straightforwardness makes it hard to believe I can understand euphemisms? (Rhetorical question, obviously you are)

                I neither view you as straight-forward, nor able to understand euphemisms.

                You mentioned Hamas.ps first. The timeline shows this. Here is the link.

                Is there a point here?

                Yes, you claimed I bought up Hamas.ps first. I did not. You did. The evidence backs that up.