I’ve been trying Lemmy for a little while and wasn’t sure how to feel about it.

Today, I wanted to start blocking the most high-censorship instances until I could find a fully zero-censorship instance and simply block all the ones with censorship. Filter bots, not people.

When I looked into it further, I found out there are no zero-censorship instances, because Lemmy relies on a broken “federation” system where each instance is supposed to be able to fetch posts from other instances, but it’s never been finished to reach a fully working state. Lemmy’s official docs say you can’t even do federation over Tor at all. This means it uses DNS, so it won’t actually allow Lemmy instances to fetch posts from each other freely, it just gets blocked instantly and easily, every time the authorities feel like blocking anything.

So you can only ever have the “average joe lemmy” and “average joe reddit” with everything approved by the authorities, and then “tor copies of lemmy” and “tor copies of reddit” where you have free speech but you can only reach other nerds.

People seem to think Lemmy is different because this weird censorship fetish is extremely popular and most of you are happy to see bans happen to certain people, not just bots, so a small Lemmy that censors certain people feels fundamentally different from a big reddit that censors more people. But it’s the exact same thing, it’s reddit.

When reddit was smaller, you could say basically anything you wanted there, they just wouldn’t let it reach the main audience. Then it got too big, and any tiny part of the audience you could reach would be too big, so they won’t let you talk at all.

Lemmy is now the small part of reddit where you can say whatever you want, separated from the main audience, until too much growth happens and you have to move again.

It’s not actually a solution to reddit. It’s not designed to be different, it’s designed to match the past today and then match reddit’s present tomorrow, while being part of a system that’s about the same in past, present, and future.

Last year, this year, and next year, you’re posting somewhere it won’t be seen by many people, and the system that charges people for ambulance rides is getting another year of ambulance ride revenue, facing no organized resistance. There’s no difference here.

Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.

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    Incorrect, and why did you put this after a quote of yet another one of my questions you’ve ignored?

    I think most of your questions are basically baseless attacks rephrased as questions, so I take the liberty to flat-out ignore them.

    Incorrect. I am not alone. You should be feeling a lot of embarrassment about these repetitive attempts to gaslight me.

    You are very much a minority.

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      Incorrect, and why did you put this after a quote of yet another one of my questions you’ve ignored?

      Not what I asked, and why did you do it again?

      Wouldn’t it be better to actually ignore the questions instead of copying and pasting them but calling it “ignoring?”

      You are very much a minority.

      Didn’t ask. Was there an actual reason to type this, or just more gaslighting and time wasting?

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        Not what I asked, and why did you do it again?

        I’ve long stopped giving a fuck about most of your asinine questions.

        Didn’t ask. Was there an actual reason to type this, or just more gaslighting and time wasting?

        Am I keeping you here? The point is you’re making demands despite not having the numbers.

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          I’ve long stopped giving a fuck about most of your asinine questions.

          That confirms my point: it’s weird to keep copying and pasting them, but not answering them, like you just did again.

          Am I keeping you here?

          Have you forgotten the past few hours suddenly? What did you think you were doing, talking to a chat bot?

          The point is you’re making demands despite not having the numbers.

          What demands? What numbers? What point?

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              You don’t have to reply.

              I didn’t ask if I do. Why waste both of our time typing that? Just because you’re a very abusive person, right? Like, you’re willing to waste your own time just to also waste mine?

              I’m done now really, but will be reporting your insults.

              Good luck getting me banned. I assume you mentally need it, and I don’t really care what happens to Lemmy enough to fear for the impact it would have on the community if they put your mental needs before basic decency. I kinda hope Lemmy keeps me around and keeps becoming a better place, but I also kinda hope they just turn it into a daycare for people like you, because I will feel kinda bad for you if you fail to get me banned after wasting so much time.

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                You can’t claim abuse when you keep choosing to reply. I’ve no more “abused” you than you have me.

                And it’s ironic you talk about “mental needs” when you’ve been claiming “abuse” from me for pages and pages despite repeatedly coming back for more.

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                  You can’t claim abuse when you keep choosing to reply.

                  Incorrect. Abuse is not defined by a lack of responses from the victim.

                  I’ve no more “abused” you than you have me.

                  Incorrect. I have only been a tiny bit abusive to you in small bursts. You’ve been extremely abusive to me constantly for hours.

                  And it’s ironic you talk about “mental needs” when you’ve been claiming “abuse” from me for pages and pages despite repeatedly coming back for more.

                  Not really. You’re pretending it’s ironic as another weak attempt at gaslighting.