• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 day ago

      It just seems insane to me that anyone could look at the death toll, the injuries, the people being conscripted, the flattened cities, the POWs and consider this a good outcome because a lot of Russians also died.

      You have to really hate Slavs if you’re that full of glee at fields of dead that you don’t care that the side you’re “supporting” is in ruins and the government is forcing people into the meat grinder.

      Fight them, or find a way to stop the death. Russia has more people, they will win a war of attrition.

      But hey if you’re a French president or whatever you get to test your hardware, weaken Russia, kill off a lot of those pesky Slavs that keep migrating for work that really riles up the racists against the EU, and you can postition yourself as the leader of an axis for freedom. It’s wins all round.

      lol sunshine: states don’t suffer, people do. I don’t care for the russian state, hell I’d love to see Putin and his oligarchs hanging skinned in a public square along with every other blood thirsty parasite crushing us all. I just find it pretty telling that it’s always people considered “undesirables” by those in power who suffer and die for Realpolitik.

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            9 hours ago

            the context is you argued the soviets were justified working with the nazis. there isn’t any further context that will make that a moral high ground for you.

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              8 hours ago

              You’re right, britian, Poland, and France are blameless for rejecting ussr offers of an alliance and that more fields of dead Slavs would be a good outcome.

              Why the fuck do you always want my people to just bear their throats for the slaughter mate? No fucking way my grandparents would have survived if the USSR didn’t occupy Poland. Shit was brutual but at least it wasn’t deathcamp brutual and my grandmother got an education and shit.

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                You’re right, britian, Poland, and France are blameless for rejecting ussr offers overtures of an alliance and that more fields of dead Slavs would be a good outcome.

                funny how tankies are quick to take responsibility for anything they perceive as being good, but the instant somebody brings up something bad, it’s really everyone else’s fault they did what they did.

                Why the fuck do you always want my people to just bear their throats for the slaughter mate?

                a french teenager could fight the nazis and be defiant up to her execution by the nazis, but the nation that supposedly won the war single-handedly is the real victim here. I’m surprised whiplash isn’t a more common injury among tankies, with the speed with which you switch back and forth between playing the victim and cosplaying as the savior of mankind.

                I’m going to block you now, I have no interest in speaking with anyone who justifies actively helping nazis. that’s a pretty fucking disgusting behavior.

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                  8 hours ago

                  What are you even talking about?

                  The French largely completely collaborated. The French resistance were impressive, but they had significant aid, lots of French jew were killed because the state and police actively supported Nazi efforts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_France, the Nazis never regarded ethnically French people as untermensch to be worked to death in camps so they didn’t face the same systemic murder that Slavic people did, the policy of lebensraum didn’t target fench lands for “emptying”.

                  You can’t be coherant because you just want other people to die for your ideals but you stay inside posting all day.

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            10 hours ago

            Nice try, tankie, but I never said the civilians had it coming, that was a misrepresentation by Hexbear vatniks because they can’t comprehend anyone not falling for soviet propaganda decades after that state failed.

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                9 hours ago

                I said authoritarians, I did not say civilians. I was under the impression that when I said soldiers, and they quoted the 27 million, that they were not also referring to civilians. that was not the case, and as expected the tankies are dishonest and started passing around the rumors that I support genocide. a ridiculous notion that would have gotten me banned if true. as you can see, I am not banned, because the admins are not idiots and are not falling for tankie rage farming.

                I am a fan of every soldier from any country who invades another dying. especially american soldiers.