• masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    That’s one gigantic rant just to demonstrate you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

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      7 days ago

      You’re calling a well-documented and cited debunking of the naive assumption that unprovoked assault on strangers expressing harmful/extremist views is an effective tool against the spread of those views a “rant”, because you’re absolutely desperate to classify the threat to your narrative it as an irrational/emotional response, so you can then rationalize ignoring the inconvenient truth.

      It’s literally what they want. If you do this, you are their ally. That’s the reality.

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        7 days ago

        You’re calling a well-documented and cited debunking

        Absolutely none of your (supposedly) “well-documented” peace-police bullcrap can hide the actual truth.

        Do tell… why is all your sources so obsessed with protecting the feels of neo-nazis, eh? Do any of these sources of yours show the same kind of concern with how dystopian capitalism “plays” into the hands of leftists, or how white supremacist violence “plays” into the hands of movements like antifa or BLM?

        No?

        I wonder why that is, liberal?

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          5 days ago

          My sources show the facts. There is consensus among people whose lives’ work is studying extremism and extremist movements. Your bloodlust does not change the reality.

          So, you cite one link describing one white nationalist reducing (not even eliminating) ‘speaking dates’ in response to violence from antifa, in an article from 2018. You call this “the actual truth”.

          Yet, five years later in 2023, the incidence of white nationalism soared to a record high. So what did antifa really accomplish with their violence, hm?

          These violent tactics are not working. They’re demonstrably making negative progress toward the cause of eradicating this kind of extremism. THAT is the “actual truth”, regardless of what you want to be true.

          All I want is for people to do what works, not what doesn’t. And part of that is correcting the common misconception about what effect physically assaulting extremists who have done nothing more than speak their extremism has.

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            5 days ago

            So, you cite one link describing one white nationalist reducing (not even eliminating) ‘speaking dates’

            Ie, leftists using incredibly mild levels of force already achieved something - unlike your liberal handwringing and crocodile tears, which has achieved absolutely nothing but EMBOLDENING the fascists.

            You call this “the actual truth”.

            Yes, liberal. It’s the actual truth. Your cowardice does not change the reality.

            Yet, five years later in 2023, the incidence of white nationalism

            Do tell… how has your liberal “reaching across the aisle” methods worked at combating the global fascist resurgence?

            Is it going well?

            These violent tactics are not working.

            Yes. The left using force does not EMBOLDEN the fascists… which seems to be your aim, liberal.

            toward the cause of eradicating this kind of extremism.

            Oh… are you actually against fascism, liberal? Really?

            Could have fooled me.

            All I want is for people to do what works,

            You want to appease fascists. THAT’S what you want, liberal.