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It’s literately the only socialist experiment that has accomplished great deeds for its citizens in a decade from feudalism to conquering the cosmos and competing with a global superpower that has been dominating the globe before its existence. Utopian socialists have smelled me from a page away and are rushing to downvote me. I already sense the “totalitarian authoritarian dictatorship tankie”.
To be honest, I have no idea what actually entails in Marxist-Lenenist ideology, I just know that all the MLs I’ve talked to have been very authoritarian or praised authoritarian regimes.
Marxism-Leninism is the ideology formed in the USSR, and is the current ideology of states like Cuba, Vietnam, and the PRC, it’s the hammer and sickle ideology. Specifically, it’s Marxism adapted for the era of capitalism as it has reached imperialism and exported most of the contradictions within capitalism to the global south. If you want to get an idea of what it’s about, I made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list.
Yeah… I’m not reading all that, “introductory” is a generous term, lol
Can you explain in what ways marxism was incomplete for the era of capitalism?
Didn’t say you should read all of it, you could just read the first 2, Why Socialism? and Why Marxism? and be pretty well-equipped to understand the gist of it. The guide itself is meant to be comprehensive and equip the reader to be a good organizer in real life.
Either way, Marxism was compatible with the capitalism of his time. However, Marx did not live to see the ways imperialism would begin to shift the problems of capitalism from the global north to the global south. Britain, France, Germany, and the US especially ended up becoming imperialist powers that expropriated vast amounts of wealth from the global south, raising conditions for their own working classes, delaying the revolution Marx thought would come to the global north first.
Lenin advanced Marxism by analyzing imperialism, noting that revolution would come to the global south before the north. The heightened contradictions from imperialism drove nationalist and communist movements in the global south against imperialism. This is ignoring advancements in organizing like the concept of the vanguard, etc, and is focused on all the new questions building socialism in underdeveloped countries instead of building on top of developed capitalist systems. Marx noted that the industrialization of society made collective ownership and planning more effective, but what do you do if a country that isn’t as industrialized has a revolution? That’s what Lenin answered.
That’s a very quick overview.
Lol stupid tankie meme is stupid.
“One more experiment, trust me bro”
“Bro another 50 years I promise the state will crumble then, come on just one more state.”
That’s not really the Marxist argument, the state doesn’t “crumble,” it withers by being superfluous. In Marxist analysis, the state is an instrument by which the ruling class of society oppresses the others, when production is fully collectivized globally there’s no more class to uphold or oppress, and so the tools like a repressive police force also become obsolete. There has never been a period where production has been globally collectivized, so no Marxist would say the conditions for the state withering have been met at any time.
I love that its called that, because marx hated lenin, said ‘if this fucker’s a marxist, then i am not’ and lenin specifically said ‘whatever you do,l: do not, under any conditions, put stalin in charge of anything’
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Yup.
